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2012 NFL Combine

  • 007Spartan said...

    If you couldn't see T-Rob's speed on the field, you just don't know what you are looking at or you weren't paying attention.

    Officially T-Rob ran a 4.52 40 and a was the 2nd fastest safety at the combine. He was also a top performer in the broad jump and verted 35 inches. He only did 15 reps at 225 lbs on the bench, which I'd say is a bit disappointing, but I think he probably helped himself quite a bit with this performance. NFL.com indicates that he currently has a 4th or 5th round grade. The only thing that confused me was their comment about him being a bit injury prone. Thought he was pretty durable myself and he never suffered a major injury. Anyway....

    How the hell is NFL network .12 seconds off in their timing when there are cameras, electric timing gear, stop watches, etc...

    Uncle Awesome ●

  • 007Spartan said...

    If you couldn't see T-Rob's speed on the field, you just don't know what you are looking at or you weren't paying attention.

    Officially T-Rob ran a 4.52 40 and a was the 2nd fastest safety at the combine. He was also a top performer in the broad jump and verted 35 inches. He only did 15 reps at 225 lbs on the bench, which I'd say is a bit disappointing, but I think he probably helped himself quite a bit with this performance. NFL.com indicates that he currently has a 4th or 5th round grade. The only thing that confused me was their comment about him being a bit injury prone. Thought he was pretty durable myself and he never suffered a major injury. Anyway....

    T-Rob missed chunks of each of MSU's last 6 games. He was never injured enough to go out for the whole game, but he would get dinged up for a series or two. Remember the Iowa game, when Jairus Jones forced a fumble and Lippett recovered? Those 2 were filling in for Robinson and Dennard respectively.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Uncle Awesome said...

    How the hell is NFL network .12 seconds off in their timing when there are cameras, electric timing gear, stop watches, etc...

    Hand time vs. electronic. I think these times just expose the myth of 4.40 forty in many cases. There simply aren't that many guys who legitimately run a sub 4.50. You can basically add 0.05 to 0.10 seconds to any hand time. I'm not sure why the NFL network puts up the unofficial hand times. They are recording them electronically and should be able to give the viewers instant feedback. I think its weird.

    A perfect example would be Luck. They indicated on the NFL network that he ran a 4.59, the same time as Cam Newton. However, he actually ran a 4.67 officially.

    This post was edited by 007Spartan on 2/28/2012 at 12:56 PM

    007Spartan

  • 007Spartan said...

    Hand time vs. electronic. I think these times just expose the myth of 4.40 forty in many cases. There simply aren't that many guys who legitimately run a sub 4.50. You can basically add 0.05 to 0.10 seconds to any hand time. I'm not sure why the NFL network puts up the unofficial hand times. They are recording them electronically and should be able to give the viewers instant feedback. I think its weird.

    Yeah, hand timing is way off most of the time.

    In high school, I was timed at just over 4.7... I can tell you based on looking at these guys run, there's no way I run a 4.7 lol

    arfabe16

  • arfabe16 said...

    Yeah, hand timing is way off most of the time.

    In high school, I was timed at just over 4.7... I can tell you based on looking at these guys run, there's no way I run a 4.7

    I was a 3 time all stater in the 100M dash in high school (Illinois). Finished 5th, 3rd, and 2nd my soph, junior, and senior year respectively. Usually ran in the 10.8 range as a junior and senior (plus or minus a tenth) when I ran meets that used electronic timing. The best electronic forty I ever ran was a 4.49. You can invariably add at LEAST a tenth, probably two tenths to the times these high school athletes are reporting. Very few are accurate. That's why its so impressive when a guy like Chris Johnson comes to the combine and runs a 4.24. I guarantee CJ would a WORLD CLASS 100M guy.

    007Spartan

  • SpartanRocky said...

    T-Rob missed chunks of each of MSU's last 6 games. He was never injured enough to go out for the whole game, but he would get dinged up for a series or two. Remember the Iowa game, when Jairus Jones forced a fumble and Lippett recovered? Those 2 were filling in for Robinson and Dennard respectively.

    Thanks Rock.

    007Spartan

  • 007Spartan said...

    I was a 3 time all stater in the 100M dash in high school (Illinois). Finished 5th, 3rd, and 2nd my soph, junior, and senior year respectively. Usually ran in the 10.8 range as a junior and senior (plus or minus a tenth) when I ran meets that used electronic timing. The best electronic forty I ever ran was a 4.49. You can invariably add at LEAST a tenth, probably two tenths to the times these high school athletes are reporting. Very few are accurate. That's why its so impressive when a guy like Chris Johnson comes to the combine and runs a 4.24. I guarantee CJ would a WORLD CLASS 100M guy.

    Damn, do you want to sign up for flag football on our team? We need some burners... I couldn't catch a few of the guys last week. Either 1) I'm old, or 2) I'm slow. Likely both.

    VanWilder ●

  • The Super Regional Combine is interesting. It's the combine for leftovers. And it's in Detroit this year.

    Batesianmimicry ●

  • VanWilder said...

    Damn, do you want to sign up for flag football on our team? We need some burners... I couldn't catch a few of the guys last week. Either 1) I'm old, or 2) I'm slow. Likely both.

    Trust me, I'm not exactly a burner any more. A car accident resulting in compound fractures of both femurs and a torn hamstring, a snowboarding accident that blew out my right ACL, MCL, and PCL, a soccer match that shredded the ankle ligs in my right foot, and yet another MCL tear while trying to do one of those idiotic spartan races has kinda sapped my speed. Now I just look back on the good old days and try not to hurt myself.

    007Spartan

  • 007Spartan said...

    Hand time vs. electronic. I think these times just expose the myth of 4.40 forty in many cases. There simply aren't that many guys who legitimately run a sub 4.50. You can basically add 0.05 to 0.10 seconds to any hand time. I'm not sure why the NFL network puts up the unofficial hand times. They are recording them electronically and should be able to give the viewers instant feedback. I think its weird.

    A perfect example would be Luck. They indicated on the NFL network that he ran a 4.59, the same time as Cam Newton. However, he actually ran a 4.67 officially.

    Yea, NFL network had K-mart with a 4.35 and a 4.41. I think his official was a 4.48.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Rich Eisen running 40 is the only entertaining part of the combine

    "Put your mother in a straight-jacket you punk ass white boy." ~ Mike Tyson

    tig ol bitties19581

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, NFL network had K-mart with a 4.35 and a 4.41. I think his official was a 4.48.

    He seems more explosive than 'fast' though.

    I bet he had really strong 10 and 20 yard splits.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • tig ol' bitties said...

    Rich Eisen running 40 is the only entertaining part of the combine

    at 6'8" 190lbs I ran a 5.6 40 and 17.0 100 yard dash on grass in HS. The calendar jokes ensued for years. Jud would have had lots of ways to describe it I'm sure.

    Actually move pretty well it just takes me about 30 yards to get up to slow.

    Our coaches were nice enough to not have them cut the grass and made us run in football pants/pads (not the shoulder pads though)

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    at 6'8" 190lbs I ran a 5.6 40 and 17.0 100 yard dash on grass in HS. The calendar jokes ensued for years. Jud would have had lots of ways to describe it I'm sure.

    Actually move pretty well it just takes me about 30 yards to get up to slow.

    Our coaches were nice enough to not have them cut the grass and made us run in football pants/pads (not the shoulder pads though)

    6'8 190? Is that a typo, or were you a beanpole?

    Batesianmimicry ●

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    6'8 190? Is that a typo, or were you a beanpole?

    It is a typo, I was 188 after an entire summer of lifting 4x a week.

    314 at the Doc on Monday, but a lot of it is muscle after I've switched to doing more lifting than cardio, I was down around 275 a couple months ago.

    I just seem to have dinosaur bones.

    This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind on 2/28/2012 at 1:56 PM

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    6'8 190? Is that a typo, or were you a beanpole?

    I looked like a Gerrick Sherman sans freckles plus chemo minus food, but with really wide shoulders somehow.

    A bit like a giant sheet of plotter paper.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    T-Rob missed chunks of each of MSU's last 6 games. He was never injured enough to go out for the whole game, but he would get dinged up for a series or two. Remember the Iowa game, when Jairus Jones forced a fumble and Lippett recovered? Those 2 were filling in for Robinson and Dennard respectively.

    I don't think this is accurate. He may have been dinged up, but Jones was in at Nickle because that is the game Drummond got his bell rung. I was in the front row at that game and saw Kurtis walk by looking like he got hit by a train.

    Natron tSpartan

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Yea, NFL network had K-mart with a 4.35 and a 4.41. I think his official was a 4.48.

    Keshawn's official time was 4.45, which was good enough for 11th among WRs. He also finish 2nd in the 60 yard shuttle (11.16 secs), 4th in the vert (39.5 inches), 8th in the 3 cone (6.85 secs), 10th in the 20 yard shuttle (4.13 secs), and 14th in the broad jump (10'2"). Overall Keyshawn had a helluva combine. I think he showed what we all knew; that he's an elite athlete. In addition, at 6'0" 188 lbs I think he's a little bigger than I thought he'd be. I'm guessing he solidified himself as at least a 4th round pick and might slide into the 3rd. We'll see though.

    This post was edited by 007Spartan on 2/29/2012 at 12:31 PM

    007Spartan

  • 007Spartan said...

    Keyshawn's official time was 4.45, which was good enough for 11th among WRs. He also finish 2nd in the 60 yard shuttle (11.16 secs), 4th in the vert (39.5 inches), 8th in the 3 cone (6.85 secs), 10th in the 20 yard shuttle (4.13 secs), and 14th in the broad jump (10'2"). Overall Keyshawn had a helluva combine. I think he showed what we all knew; that he's an elite athlete. In addition, at 6'0" 188 lbs I think he's a little bigger than I thought he'd be. I'm guessing he solidified himself as at least a 4th round pick and might slide into the 3rd. We'll see though.

    According to ChaCha, Keyshawn's time was a 4.47. Keshawn's time was 4.45
    http://www.chacha.com/question/what-did-keyshawn-johnson-run-his-40-time-in

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    Batesianmimicry ●

  • Austin Daye?

    Edit: on the 6'8, 190 subject

    This post was edited by Larry Kazamias on 2/28/2012 at 2:50 PM

    Larry Kazamias

  • Larry Kazamias said...

    Austin Daye?

    Edit: on the 6'8, 190 subject

    More like a giant version of the kid from Road trip, with a normal human's face.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • T-Dot said...

    I thought he wasn't lifting is what I read.

    And I don't get that either....ok you don't run because you want a faster field at pro day, you don't throw since you want more familiar receivers around you.....but benching?

    It's a flat bench and 225 lbs....I wonder if the gravitational pull at some schools is lower which makes it advantageous to wait for the pro day?

    Maybe his agent told him not to.

    QUOTE:

    And with at least one torn pec being suffered this year during the event (by Iowa tackle Markus Zusevics), agents have been complaining about the effort to get the players to squeeze out a final rep that could blow out a muscle or a tendon.

    “Who cares if my guy gets 24 instead of 27 reps?” one agent told PFT. “No one has ever won a football game because of how many times a guy can lift 225 pounds with his arms.”

    The easy answer is for any player who is concerned about injury to pass on the event. The better answer is to ditch the hoo-rah baloney and treat these kids like the men they’re now expected to be. No one is yelling at them to run faster in the 40-yard dash; why does someone need to try to persuade them to strain past discomfort and into the territory of injury?

    Agents grumbling about John Lott’s weight-room antics | ProFootballTalk

    For years, Cardinals strength coach John Lott has been adding a label, we need to come up with a new name for the thing).

    profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

    SpartanInNH ●

  • 10 who won at this year’s scouting combine | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports

    Read '10 who won at this year’s scouting combine' from our blog Shutdown Corner on Yahoo! Sports. With the work in Indianapolis complete, several prospects helped their causes at the scouting combine. Here's a closer look at some of the biggest winners. QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State -- Before his combine performance, Cousins was relegated to the … Continue reading →

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  • Zed's Dead said...

    Does it hurt him that he looks like a fucking Ken Doll? I doubt it.

    I wonder if he skipped the bench so it wouldn't screw up his throwing 'exhibition' ?

    Or are these guys smart enough to let them throw before they lift?

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Pylon St8ofmind on 2/29/2012 at 12:33 PM

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • "Cousins was often dinged for poor decisions during his collegiate career"

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