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2012 Spring Football Roster

  • Norman, Thomas, Fowler, and Lang are injured..

    Jim Comparoni ‏ @JimComparoni
    On Arnett: "That petition has gone in. So we will wait to see where the NCAA is on that. We will work him as if he's going 2 be game-ready."

    This post was edited by Itz Pstein21607 on 3/27/2012 at 10:50 AM

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    http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/msu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/SpringRoster2012.pdf

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    Itz Pstein21607 ●

  • Beat me to it

    msuspartan2015 ●

  • A couple notables:

    Denicos Allen- 5'11 232 (look out)
    Michael Dennis- 6'7 309
    Jack Allen- 6'1 292
    Kyle Kerrick- 6'3 197 that's a big True FR
    RJ Williamson- 6-2 200
    LT 6-3 280 (that doesn't sound great, but his injury probably doesn't help)
    Ty Hammock- 6'0 237 and listed at LB
    Brandon Clemons- 6'3 274
    Joel Heath- 6'6 277
    Tyler Hoover 6'7 295
    James Kittredge- 6'4 271

    Cool Runnings

  • Interesting size changes:

    Gholston: Down to 275 from 280

    Adams: Up to 175 from 170

    Lawrence Thomas: Up to 280 from 265 confused and injured.

    Isaiah Lewis: down to 195 from 199

    Chris Norman: Up to 6'1 230 from 225

    Juwan Caesar: Up to 6'4 209 from 6'3 197

    Fowler: Up to 218 from 212 (being injured I'm sure played a role with this)

    Lippett: listed at 6'3 192 from 6'2 185

    Trae Waynes: listed at 6'1 instead of 6'0

    Nick Hill: 5'8 190, up from 184

    Caper: Down to 221 from 225

    Bell: I think down to 238 from 242

    Mumphery: Up to 208 from 200

    Jairus Jones: Down to 6'1 205 from 210

    RJ Williamson: Apparently has sprouted lol. Up to 6'0 200 from 5'10 180-something

    Denicos Allen: 5'11 232, up from 5'10 220 confused

    Darqueze Dennard: Up to 190 from 185.

    Langford: up to 208 from 205

    Taiwan Jones: Down slightly to 232 from 234.

    Max Bullough: Up to 252 from 245

    Kyler Elsworth: Going on the Denicos Allen Diet: Up to 6'1 225 from 6'1 212

    Ed Davis: Up to 220 from 210.

    Jeremy Gainer: Moved to DE

    Gardiner: Down to 218 from 228

    Fou Fonoti: Up to 6'4 300 from 295

    Corey Freeman: Up to 6'2 258 from 250

    Ramondo: "down" to 6'5 320 from 330

    Reynolds: "up" to 320 from 318

    Chris McDonald: "Down" to 299 from 300

    Travis Jackson: up to 280 from 275

    Treadwell: Up to 299 from 292

    Ethan Ruhland: Up to 290 from 285

    Burkland: Up tot 315 from 305

    Deyo: Up to 6'6 305 from 290

    Klatt: Down to 290 from 300

    Ray Jr.: Up to 300 from 280-something (good to see)

    Donovan Clark: Down to 295 from 310

    Henry "I'm an Aircraft Carrier" Conway: up to 6'6 325 from 318

    Dion Sims: Up to 280 from 275

    Brandon Clemons: up to 274 from 260

    Shilique Calhoun: Up to 240 from 225

    Hoover: Up to 295 from 290

    Joel Heath: 6'6 277. Holy crap. Came in at around 265.

    Damon Knox: Up to 280 from 265

    Taylor Calero; Up to 248 from 235

    Mark Scarpinato: Up to 280 from 255

    Kittredge: up to 271 from . . . 270 lol

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Thomas is not playing LB at 280. Sorry guys.

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM Injury wise, Shoulder again? Victim of Craig James and his hooker killing?

    Norman is probably just being held out as a preventitive and to give the crazy deep LB position a chance to settle itself out.

    If you are 6'5" or taller, 10-15 lbs, is NOTHING, trust me. It's taking a shit or working out for 2 weeks.

    This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind on 3/27/2012 at 10:39 AM

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    Thomas is not playing LB at 280. Sorry guys.

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM Injury wise, Shoulder again? Victim of Craig James and his hooker killing?

    Norman is probably just being held out as a preventitive and to give the crazy deep LB position a chance to settle itself out.

    If you are 6'5" or taller, 10-15 lbs, is NOTHING, trust me. It's taking a shit or working out for 2 weeks.

    Thank you Resident Ogre.

    I thought LT was around 260ish last year and was working hard in the weight room. You're looking at a future DE right there (Clayborn from Iowa was an AA at 6'3 285).

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    Thomas is not playing LB at 280. Sorry guys.

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM?

    Norman is probably just being held out as a preventitive and to give the crazy deep LB position a chance to settle itself out.

    If you are 6'5" or taller, 10-15 lbs, is NOTHING, trust me. It's taking a shit or working out for 2 weeks.

    Yeah - I'm a little concerned about LT's ability to keep his weight down. I'm curious to see if he's still got the coverage abilities he showed during HS. Does anybody remember what his injury was?

    BongoFury ●

  • Thomas is gonna have to move to the line. 280 is just gonna be too much weight for him to carry at LB

    WavSpartan

  • BongoFury said...

    Yeah - I'm a little concerned about LT's ability to keep his weight down. I'm curious to see if he's still got the coverage abilities he showed during HS. Does anybody remember what his injury was?

    Shoulder

    WavSpartan

  • BongoFury said...

    Yeah - I'm a little concerned about LT's ability to keep his weight down. I'm curious to see if he's still got the coverage abilities he showed during HS. Does anybody remember what his injury was?

    Personally I'd rather have him at DE, more speed on the field, and you can do some nasty things with zone blitzes and dropping him with those coverage skills.

    I honestly thought he was a safety prospect the first time I saw him in those 7 on 7 drills, I think it was the video at Michigan's camp.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • WavSpartan said...

    Shoulder

    Better than knee, but not a whole lot better.

    Shoulder injury shouldn't make it hard to keep weight off though as you can still do a lot of different things to stay fit.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • T Lip listed at WR. Surely due to the lack of experience? I thought the coaches liked him at CB?

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Thank you Resident Ogre.

    I thought LT was around 260ish last year and was working hard in the weight room. You're looking at a future DE right there (Clayborn from Iowa was an AA at 6'3 285).

    I'd like to say it is something though when it's

    1) the first measurement we are getting on a guy from the staff officially to compare to their 'alleged' size

    2) for a very young guy, it is something if they put on good weight as their metabolisms are so high when they are 18 ish.

    3) opposite end, Johnny Adams putting on 5 lbs of good weight is pretty close to a young lineman putting on 20 lbs of good weight. Hopefully Johnny can get up near 180 by the start of the year.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • dubie7006 said...

    T Lip listed at WR. Surely due to the lack of experience? I thought the coaches liked him at CB?

    Yep, all around.

    He's got very good size for WR, but elite size for CB

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    Personally I'd rather have him at DE, more speed on the field, and you can do some nasty things with zone blitzes and dropping him with those coverage skills.

    I honestly thought he was a safety prospect the first time I saw him in those 7 on 7 drills, I think it was the video at Michigan's camp.

    That was when he was listed ast 232. I'd be shocked if nearly 50 pounds later he can still move like that.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • dubie7006 said...

    T Lip listed at WR. Surely due to the lack of experience? I thought the coaches liked him at CB?

    If you look at WR this spring, with Folwer out, the only WR's who could participate are Caesar, Sims Jr., Arnett and Kerrick. That's not enough, so they moved Lippett and Dixon over; Caesar just got cleared to run last week. Dixon looks to be behind Jones and Drummond at S, and maybe even behind Williamson.

    Caesar's a huge target; I hope he stays healthy.

    This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 3/27/2012 at 10:51 AM

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • We got us some big WRs - Four guys 6'3" or bigger

    Kerrick 6'3"
    Caesar 6'4"
    Lippett 6'3"
    Troup 6'3"

    BongoFury ●

  • BongoFury said...

    We got us some big WRs - Four guys 6'3" or bigger

    Kerrick 6'3" Caesar 6'4" Lippett 6'3" Troup 6'3"

    Troup will not play during the season unless it's garbage time or there are a lot of injuries at WR.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    If you look at WR this spring, with Folwer out, the only WR's who could participate are Caesar, Sims Jr., Arnett and Kerrick. That's not enough, so they moved Lippett and Dixon over; Caesar just got cleared to run last week. Dixon looks to be behind Jones and Drummond at S, and maybe even behind Williamson.

    Caesar's a huge target; I hope he stays healthy.

    Rock, do you think there's potential for T Lip to play both ways this year? If the injury situation at WR doesn't get shaken out (or if Arnett doesn't get cleared)?

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    dubie7006

  • SpartanRocky said...

    That was when he was listed ast 232. I'd be shocked if nearly 50 pounds later he can still move like that.

    UH... DUH

    This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind on 3/27/2012 at 10:55 AM

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Troup will not play during the season unless it's garbage time or there are a lot of injuries at WR.

    I thought the reviews on Troup were very positive early on? Obviously he's a limited guy but he could still be a contributor.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • A few years ago I would have said no one can play LB at 280, but there are several guys in the NFL playing LB at 280+ now. Lawrence Thomas is a freak athlete and if he can still run at 280 he will stick at LB.

    Johnny2x2x ●

  • Johnny2x2x said...

    A few years ago I would have said no one can play LB at 280, but there are several guys in the NFL playing LB at 280+ now. Lawrence Thomas is a freak athlete and if he can still run at 280 he will stick at LB.

    agreed

    he's a linebacker

    We've got depth. We've got numbers.

    ninowesco

  • Johnny2x2x said...

    A few years ago I would have said no one can play LB at 280, but there are several guys in the NFL playing LB at 280+ now. Lawrence Thomas is a freak athlete and if he can still run at 280 he will stick at LB.

    Upshaw played at 272 for his senior year, IIRC.

    3-4 OLB is a bit different though.

    Macks ●

  • Some interesting things on twitter about Bell as #1 RB....

    Joe Rexrode ‏ @joerexrode
    That was interesting. RT @Sloc12 asked about Bell clear #1 RB dantonio:"important that we aren't complacent. I'll leave it at that" ... hmmm

    Joe Rexrode ‏ @joerexrode
    Dantonio on who will get the carries at RB: "Your guess is as good as mine. ... I really don't care who plays."

    On Calhoun

    Joe Rexrode ‏ @joerexrode
    Dantonio on Calhoun: Said he could have helped midway through last year. "He's got Julian Peterson type ability." There's a quote for you.

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    Itz Pstein21607 ●

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