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2012 realignment (ND to Big 12 for Olympic sports? )

  • tJYD said...

    Screw Notre Dame. Get 4 schools who are willing to come, even if it means that drives ND to the Big 12.

    There is an extremely real possibility that the B1G will not expand unless it includes either Texas or Notre Dame. If your posts thus far have any validity to them, then that takes Texas out. So you'd better get comfortable with the idea of going after Notre Dame if your pro-expansion.

    Notre Dame is the B1G's #1 target. Deal with it.

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  • sprtnbrn said...

    Mizzou added nothing and actually would've been a money loser for the conference membership. Remember that any new member is only going to be accepted if they can pull their own weight on BTN money at a minimum. You're arguing in favor of expansion for expansions sake. That has never been the aim of the conference and never will be.

    I thought Mizzou lost out because Nebraska was a better draw, not because they couldn't pull their weight.

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  • tJYD said...

    I thought Mizzou lost out because Nebraska was a better draw, not because they couldn't pull their weight.

    Once Nebraska became an option for the Big 10 and joined, Mizzou became a money loser. Nebraska added most of their markets.

    sprtnbrn

  • Jandy said...

    There is an extremely real possibility that the B1G will not expand unless it includes either Texas or Notre Dame. If your posts thus far have any validity to them, then that takes Texas out. So you'd better get comfortable with the idea of going after Notre Dame if your pro-expansion.

    Notre Dame is the B1G's #1 target. Deal with it.

    Not if the ACC implodes AND..and this is a big and, Texas AD DeLoss Dodds can get the rest of the Big 12 to agree on giving Notre Dame the same deal as they have in the Big East.

    The Notre Dame ship has sailed, you take what you can get when the conference implodes. If UNC and Duke are there, you look at that.

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  • tJYD said...

    Not if the ACC implodes AND..and this is a big and, Texas AD DeLoss Dodds can get the rest of the Big 12 to agree on giving Notre Dame the same deal as they have in the Big East.

    The Notre Dame ship has sailed, you take what you can get when the conference implodes. If UNC and Duke are there, you look at that.

    I'm sorry, did you just give a highly hypothetical situation as evidence for why Notre Dame won't join the B1G?

    Wow, I was willing to give you a shot despite your reputation, but you are seemingly incapable of logical thought.

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  • You can say all you want about the relative merits and strengths of basketball and football programs....however, the main factor will be and always will be, academic fit. If you aren't a major research institution with high academic standing, you can forget it when it comes to a B1G invitation.

    ancientspartan ●

  • ancientspartan said...

    You can say all you want about the relative merits and strengths of basketball and football programs....however, the main factor will be and always will be, academic fit. If you aren't a major research institution with high academic standing, you can forget it when it comes to a B1G invitation.

    You really can't compare Nebraska academics to Mizzou. Nebraska is sort of a joke and I think Mizzou has some really good programs.

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  • ancientspartan said...

    You can say all you want about the relative merits and strengths of basketball and football programs....however, the main factor will be and always will be, academic fit. If you aren't a major research institution with high academic standing, you can forget it when it comes to a B1G invitation.

    .....Mizzou was ranked higher academically then Nebraska, still didn't matter in the longrun.

    Academics plays a role, but is not the key factor.

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  • tJYD said...

    .....Mizzou was ranked higher academically then Nebraska, still didn't matter in the longrun.

    Academics plays a role, but is not the key factor.

    Actually Academics is still a major factor when it comes to the Big 10. Arbitrary rankings aren't the indicator. It's RESEARCH and Nebraska brought more to the table than Mizzou.

    And are you seriously saying Ga. Tech could go the SEC???? That alone my friend means you don't have a fucking clue. Read up on Georgia Tech and the SEC and you'll see why that won't happen. And as has been pointed out, Duke and UNC would never go to the SEC and NC State could never drag the flagship school anywhere. That's totally backward.

    Do you seriously just do nothing but read 50-100 different guys opinions and post a mix of all their shit and hope?

    MSULordyoda

  • MSULordyoda said...

    Actually Academics is still a major factor when it comes to the Big 10. Arbitrary rankings aren't the indicator. It's RESEARCH and Nebraska brought more to the table than Mizzou.

    And are you seriously saying Ga. Tech could go the SEC???? That alone my friend means you don't have a fucking clue. Read up on Georgia Tech and the SEC and you'll see why that won't happen. And as has been pointed out, Duke and UNC would never go to the SEC and NC State could never drag the flagship school anywhere. That's totally backward.

    Do you seriously just do nothing but read 50-100 different guys opinions and post a mix of all their shit and hope?

    I said Tech was going to look into the Big Ten. I also said the only way NC State was going to the SEC is if they were with UNC. I also explained why I said that as well. Which basically means, unless the ACC imploded, NC State is staying put.

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  • tJYD said...

    So are people in this thread saying the Big Ten should go after UNC and Duke if the opportunity presents itself (ie the ACC imploding?)

    As much as I want to say do it, taking Duke and UNC will water down the football product, which is driving expansion.

    I think what people in this thread are saying is:

    "What the fuck is this dude talking about? Where is he hearing this bullshit? The pen is blue....The pen is blue. The goddamn pen is blue."

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  • tJYD said...

    Screw Notre Dame. Get 4 schools who are willing to come, even if it means that drives ND to the Big 12.

    Having a 16 team conference has been very well proven to be a failure by the Big East.

    Stay at 12.

    Beardy

  • Beardy said...

    Having a 16 team conference has been very well proven to be a failure by the Big East.

    Stay at 12.

    The Big East failed because their members are not full members in all sports.

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  • tJYD said...

    The Big East failed because their members are not full members in all sports.

    Is there any conference where every school is a member in every sport?

    It's falling apart because 16 is too many for a single conference. Not enough pieces of pie to go around. Everyone got wowed with a couple of showings of a large number of teams in the NCAA tournament and then someone started running with the idea that 16 team conferences are a thing of the future *coughESPNcough* without slowing down to realize that there is a limited amount of money available.

    Next, a bunch of others bought in presuming the first guy knew what he was talking about until it filtered down to 'all the experts' thinking that.

    This post was edited by Beardy on 3/24/2012 at 6:21 PM

    Beardy

  • mpcoan said...

    I think what people in this thread are saying is:

    "What the fuck is this dude talking about? Where is he hearing this bullshit? The pen is blue....The pen is blue. The goddamn pen is blue."

    Well I love that when asked for actual sources he failed to provide ANY.

    As I asked him..does he just listen to 50 different opinions and then make shit up and hope? (He neglected to answer that as well.)

    MSULordyoda

  • tJYD said...

    I said Tech was going to look into the Big Ten. I also said the only way NC State was going to the SEC is if they were with UNC. I also explained why I said that as well. Which basically means, unless the ACC imploded, NC State is staying put.

    Again, provide evidence or just stop.

    The Big 10 is not interested in Georgia Tech. If the conference was seriously looking at expanding, you'd make another run at Notre Dame first and foremost. Then you'd take a run at Pitt.

    MSULordyoda

  • Beardy said...

    Is there any conference where every school is a member in every sport?

    If you exclude hockey, the SEC, B1G, Pac-12, Big 12 and the ACC.

    The RCMB...is one of the most awful, alarming, inappropriate, disgusting, and offensive msg boards in the history of the internet.

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  • Jud Owns Digger said...

    If you exclude hockey, the SEC, B1G, Pac-12, Big 12 and the ACC.

    Too much common sense...gtfo

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  • MSULordyoda said...

    Again, provide evidence or just stop.

    The Big 10 is not interested in Georgia Tech. If the conference was seriously looking at expanding, you'd make another run at Notre Dame first and foremost. Then you'd take a run at Pitt.

    Exactly. I respect Georgia Tech as a school but they would be the Big 10's 10th or 11th choice as an expansion candidate. The only ACC schools that the Big 10 would seriously consider right now are UNC and Duke.

    sprtnbrn

  • Beardy.... Boise, SD State and Notre Dame, Marquette, Depaul and St. John's.

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  • this should be called "tRelignment thread where you post any hypothetical situation you can dream up"

    That said, I see an asteroid colliding in Texas and wiping out the entire state. That will really throw a curve in the expansion plans. The SEC would then look to replace LSU, A&M, Miss, Miss St, and Ark since they would all be wiped out. They would probably steal from the ACC, so the big10 would look to steal the leftovers after the SEC was done. Maryland and Virginia would be my choice.

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  • tJYD said...

    Beardy.... Boise, SD State and Notre Dame, Marquette, Depaul and St. John's.

    That's not a conference...That's random teams from several conferences.

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  • tig ol' bitties said...

    this should be called "tRelignment thread where you post any hypothetical situation you can dream up"

    That said, I see an asteroid colliding in Texas and wiping out the entire state. That will really throw a curve in the expansion plans. The SEC would then look to replace LSU, A&M, Miss, Miss St, and Ark since they would all be wiped out. They would probably steal from the ACC, so the big10 would look to steal the leftovers after the SEC was done. Maryland and Virginia would be my choice.

    ACC to add Butler and VCU!

    The RCMB...is one of the most awful, alarming, inappropriate, disgusting, and offensive msg boards in the history of the internet.

    Jud Owns Digger

  • tJYD said...

    Beardy.... Boise, SD State and Notre Dame, Marquette, Depaul and St. John's.

    Well do Marquette, Depaul, and St. John's even have football teams? And what other conference do they play sports in besides the Big East. What other conference does Boise play in besides the Mountain West?

    And last I checked San Diego State was in fully in the Mountain West as well.

    Wanna take another run at your examples?

    How many more times do you want to be wrong today?

    MSULordyoda

  • tig ol' bitties said...

    this should be called "tRelignment thread where you post any hypothetical situation you can dream up"

    That said, I see an asteroid colliding in Texas and wiping out the entire state. That will really throw a curve in the expansion plans. The SEC would then look to replace LSU, A&M, Miss, Miss St, and Ark since they would all be wiped out. They would probably steal from the ACC, so the big10 would look to steal the leftovers after the SEC was done. Maryland and Virginia would be my choice.

    Well, I think UM, MSU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and OSU are secretly plotting to leave the Big 10 and join with North Dakota, Maine, New Hampshire, Boston College, Boston University, and UMass-Lowell, to create a hockey centric conference.

    MSULordyoda

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