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2013 NFL Combine Thread

  • Jandy said...

    Bell with 2 more reps than Sims? Is that right?

    Yup. But remember bench press favors people will smaller arms. I don't think they measure RBs arm length but generally speaking, Bell should have shorter arms at 6'1 vs. Sims at 6'5.

    Macks ●

  • vg3 said...

    He's 9th slowest out of 10 so far. It sucks that he didn't run faster.

    Ninth slowest out of 10? So he's the second fastest?

    This post was edited by Lawre167 on 2/23/2013 at 8:14 PM

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  • Did Bell run his 40's yet? Or has Will tested on bench?

    GreenMonster

  • GreenMonster said...

    Did Bell run his 40's yet? Or has Will tested on bench?

    Today was lineman, tight ends, and specialists.

    Jahlil Suggs

  • GreenMonster said...

    Did Bell run his 40's yet? Or has Will tested on bench?

    Both of those things will happen tomorrow, along with JA5's weigh-in.

    Macks ●

  • His Dudeness said...

    Not to pile on, but this is exactly why most people went with the "best of luck to him, but he should really be coming back" line with Sims and Gholston. They really had a number of areas where they could have put out a lot of good film and really earned some money. Hope he does well but this doesn't sound promising too far

    I think people put too much weight into 40 times. They don't mean success or failure at the next level or at the draft.

    Doug Martin ran a 4.57 and Alfred Morris a 4.64 at last years combine, those would be slow compared to other RB 40 times at last years combine. I think they both turned out just fine.

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  • 40 times are useless for most positions but probably most useful for DB, WR and speed-based RBs.

    10-yard splits are far more important.

    All of those times would be far more useful if they were done in pads.

    Macks ●

  • Sims at 4.75 and 262 lbs, according to NFL.com. 8th out of 15. Just fine compared to media favorite Eifert from ND running a 4.68 at 250 lbs.

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  • Jandy said...

    Bell with 2 more reps than Sims? Is that right?

    Doesn't matter unless you want your RB to be strong enough to push the bleachers out of the way for the girls volleyball regional championships.

    Izzo Court ●

  • Dion Caputi ‏@nfldraftupdate

    #Rice's Vance McDonald, #SDSt's Gavin Escobar, and #MSU's Dion Sims helped their cause with strong workouts, to me. All are nice receivers.

    Macks ●

  • Ron Jeremy said...

    I think people put too much weight into 40 times. They don't mean success or failure at the next level or at the draft.

    Doug Martin ran a 4.57 and Alfred Morris a 4.64 at last years combine, those would be slow compared to other RB 40 times at last years combine. I think they both turned out just fine.

    Alfred Morris, drafted in the 6th Rd...

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  • I personally think they should make them run the 40 yard dash in full equipment.

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  • CORNER BLITZ said...

    Alfred Morris, drafted in the 6th Rd...

    So? Started for the Redskins and had a great year.

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  • Ron Jeremy said...

    So? Started for the Redskins and had a great year.

    Yes he did. But the point of being drafted higher is you earn more money. Morris is a ridiculous bargain for the Redskins because of his rookie 6th Round contract right now. Those are years and damage done to his body he won't get back. I believe that is the point Corner Blitz is trying to make.

    However, the most important thing is that he is successful, like he has been.

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  • EastGreatFalls said...

    Yes he did. But the point of being drafted higher is you earn more money. Morris is a ridiculous bargain for the Redskins because of his rookie 6th Round contract right now. Those are years and damage done to his body he won't get back. I believe that is the point Corner Blitz is trying to make.

    However, the most important thing is that he is successful, like he has been.

    I get the point of the post, my point is a RB who runs a 4.64 40 kicked some ass in the NFL, yet everyone is going nuts a TE who ran a 4.73 ruined his career by leaving early.

    The 40 times at the combine don't mean as much as people here make it out to be.

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  • CORNER BLITZ said...

    Alfred Morris, drafted in the 6th Rd...

    So? His point is that 40yrd dashes don't matter much when it comes to NFL success. As far as being drafted, it's hard to say how many teams actually bump you up after a good 40 if any do*.

    *Not counting Al Davis era Raiders.

    Metal_Sparty

  • Ron Jeremy said...

    I get the point of the post, my point is a RB who runs a 4.64 40 kicked some ass in the NFL, yet everyone is going nuts a TE who ran a 4.73 ruined his career by leaving early.

    The 40 times at the combine don't mean as much as people here make it out to be.

    They do and they don't. In terms of draft status, they sure as hell do.

    In terms of career, you are absolutely right.

    Let me ask you if you think Sims made the right decision in leaving early? I will tell you I think he could have helped himself if he stayed another year, but I don't think he effed up his career.

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  • EastGreatFalls said...

    They do and they don't. In terms of draft status, they sure as hell do.

    In terms of career, you are absolutely right.

    Let me ask you if you think Sims made the right decision in leaving early? I will tell you I think he could have helped himself if he stayed another year, but I don't think he effed up his career.

    Lets be honest

    He left early to support his kid. Simple as that. Good for him to be able to support his family.

    If he doesn't have a kid, he comes back

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by copemoney0 on 2/23/2013 at 10:43 PM

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  • EastGreatFalls said...

    They do and they don't. In terms of draft status, they sure as hell do.

    In terms of career, you are absolutely right.

    Let me ask you if you think Sims made the right decision in leaving early? I will tell you I think he could have helped himself if he stayed another year, but I don't think he effed up his career.

    I agree with you, I don't think he screwed up by leaving early, but I think he could have helped himself by staying.

    Sims didn't have a real complete stretch of playing at MSU between injuries and his computer fiasco, really didn't make an impression as a stud TE for a long stretch. I do think he is a great talent, that was under utilized last year in that putrid offense we ran.

    Another year at MSU could have possibly helped him, but who knows.

    I went back and looked at some 40 times for TE's who play in the NFL drafted over the last couple seasons. Tough to nail down times for drafted players at TE, Kyle Rudolph didn't run the 40 at the 2011 combine for example.

    Lance Kendricks from Wisconsin ran a 4.75 40 at the 2011 combine, he was drafted in the 2nd round by the Rams in 2011. I guess that 40 time didn't kill his draft stock.

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  • Ron Jeremy said...

    I agree with you, I don't think he screwed up by leaving early, but I think he could have helped himself by staying.

    Sims didn't have a real complete stretch of playing at MSU between injuries and his computer fiasco, really didn't make an impression as a stud TE for a long stretch. I do think he is a great talent, that was under utilized last year in that putrid offense we ran.

    Another year at MSU could have possibly helped him, but who knows.

    I went back and looked at some 40 times for TE's who play in the NFL drafted over the last couple seasons. Tough to nail down times for drafted players at TE, Kyle Rudolph didn't run the 40 at the 2011 combine for example.

    Lance Kendricks from Wisconsin ran a 4.75 40 at the 2011 combine, he was drafted in the 2nd round by the Rams in 2011. I guess that 40 time didn't kill his draft stock.

    hey there's no room for logic on this board!

    manofthewild07

  • I had a statistics class that required me to do an open topic paper. Because I knew the info would be readily available, I did an analysis of the correlation between combine 40 times and future NFL success for WRs. Success was defined by catches per year for WRs that had at least 3 years in the league. Turns out, there was virtually no correlation. I guess the ability to catch the ball is more important than how fast they can go.

    TravisotCosmos ●

  • The 40 yard dash time isn't the best barometer though. How often does an NFL player run shirtless with no pads on and in a straight line for 40 yards during a game? Watch the game film and scouts know what Dion is capable of. Game speed is much more important than some straight line speed drill. Dion will be just fine.

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  • AStubbs7 said...

    The 40 yard dash time isn't the best barometer though. How often does an NFL player run shirtless with no pads on and in a straight line for 40 yards during a game? Watch the game film and scouts know what Dion is capable of. Game speed is much more important than some straight line speed drill. Dion will be just fine.

    The offense was so bad and he was so injury prone that the scouts really dont know what he's capable of.

    Jahlil Suggs

  • spartyon1 said...

    Showing TE pass catching drills now:he's holding his own but just isn't as fluid or athletic as the top guys...Mayock just said he's "not a natural pass catching tight end" and puts eifert(ND), ertz(stanford), escobar(San Jose State), kelce(cinci) and Reed(Florida) in his top 5 and McDonald from Rice also looked good. Not looking good for Dion IMO.

    Enough 40-yd-time talk. What's up with this^^^? Does this Mayock have credibility?

    Count me among those who thought Deon was one of the top TE's entering the draft - (size, athleticism, hands, etc.). And when I say "top", I mean number 1, 2, or 3. This looks like he's not in top 5, perhaps not in top 7. At least according to Mayock.

    Dicks Fake Eye2 ●

  • Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I think it's pretty cool. You can sort combine stats by position, day and event.

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker

    This post was edited by AWESOMO 4000215 on 2/24/2013 at 7:50 AM

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