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Our offensive line would have had a little more success if Burkland doesn't break his ankle against ND.

Let me repost this for you:

Entire season: MSU D was 5th in the country in yds/play. UofM was 46th.
In conference: MSU D was 1st. UofM was 5th, a full half yard worse per play.

The defenses weren't even comparable.

So, MSU had 2 first team, 4 second team, and 5 honorable mention All B1G performers last year on defense. 8 of them come back.

um had 1 second team, 5 honorable mention. 4 are coming back.

BTW, the majority of the MSU players on those teams were underclassmen (Rush, Dennard, Gholston, Bullough, Allen, Lewis). 3rd in the country in sacks(um 30th) 11th in ints (um 85th) Again, those guys are all coming back. I understand your desire to use the numbers that are in your favor. What I will say is this. MSU's defense was a top 10 unit last year, they will be better this year. UM's wasn't last year, and they lost more than MSU did. The upside for MSU's defense is off the charts. They pass the eye test, um doesn't.

The OL looked bad for a good portion of the year because MSU was starting 2 freshmen and a JUCO transfer (who turned out to be pretty good) and were missing 2 starters. By the end of the year, they were pretty good. 6 OL with a lot of experience and a bowl victory to their credit. And let me get this straight. Your 4* player who has never played C is a stud, our 4* QB is a question mark. Idiot.

Yeah, but it was pretty clear that MSU's defense was much better. We played Wisky twice, SCum played them 0 times. 31 and 42 points will take a toll on your scoring defense, yardage per game is a more accurate representation of a defense's abilities.

ps: Fuck off.

um played a shortened game against WMU, a Marquise Gray-less Minny, had 8 home games, and didn't play against either of the top 2 statistical offensive teams in the B1G. MSU played 3 games against said teams, didn't have 8 home games, and STILL finished in the top 10 in the country in scoring defense. 19th in sacks allowed on offense, and the running game was better in YPC (mainly due to Bell getting more carries). If you couldn't see the improvement in MSU's OL from the beginning of the year against YSU to the end of the year against Georgia then I just don't know what to tell you.

Bad troll.

Well he was measuring in yds/play, which makes no sense. Yds/game makes more sense, but I still find it pointless considering that stat doesn't make it on the scoreboard. I'm not questioning that MSU's D was better, but there's no sense in twisting the numbers.

Western Michigan, Eastern Michigan and SDSU is nothing to be proud about either buddy.

Yeah cuz playing WMU and SDSU is sooooo much better

Get lost troll

Time to head back to mgoblow

They played WMU, EMU and SDSU. Not sure what you're getting at here. They played a lot of team that weren't very good, where MSU played a much tougher schedule. To say that I'm twisting stats to make MSU look better than SCum is ignorant.

It's simple. the Wolvies played a much lighter schedule, and gave up almost a half a yard more per play. They ranked 46th in total defense, while MSU was fifth. That tells the entire story.

Idiot. You had a cupcake schedule. WMU > FAU. So fucking what? UW > your entire schedule including your bowl game. We played them twice. You want to tell me how good um's offense is, we slapped you around like a rag doll. You aren't doing a very good job here. Better ask your mom for some mac and cheese and a blanky, get some rest, and try again later.

Again, why do you use yds/play? How does that "tell the entire story"?

It's more representative of the defense and it's efforts. WMU may have been 18th in scoring but if you watched that game, they shit their pants when they got inside the twenty. UM zero blitzed them on passing situations and Carder lost his mind. That doesn't change the fact that WMU marched down the field the whole game, only to turn it over in the end zone. The scoring defense stat is impressive but it doesn't represent how the D actually played.