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247Sports rates Jay Harris a 3-star, Rivals lists him as 2-star

  • copemoney0 said...

    Assume if he committed to UM, he'd be a 4*

    You know, I recognize that UM is our rival and is going to be a topic of conversation on our board, but it is a sad state of affairs when 50% of posts in any recruiting thread is about UM. Hell, 75% of the post in the Harris threads were about UM. Some of you guys really make us all look like losers.

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    Don't feed the trolls Tanner. Your attention is what T-Pain is looking for. That and people for the trenches.

    The O-Line and D-Line recruiting issue isn't going away

    I've read several comments from people lately that reiterate what I've been saying

    TPain151807 ●

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    Both ratings were recently updated...

    Mods, Ban this troll

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    FIFY biggrin

    Good call. thumbsup

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  • T-Pain said...

    The O-Line and D-Line recruiting issue isn't going away

    I've read several comments from people lately that reiterate what I've been saying

    I'm not here to say if you're right or wrong, I'm saying you lack the mental capacity to do anything but spout cliches that you probably don't even understand, and if you happen to be right it's by pure luck.

    This post was edited by Rocket_Play on 6/28/2012 at 5:25 PM

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    I'm not here to say if you're right or wrong, I'm saying you lack the mental capacity to do anything but spout cliches that you probably don't even understand, and if you happen to be right it's by pure luck.

    I disagree

    You've probably only read a small fraction of my posts on recruiting

    TPain151807 ●

  • If I'm this kid I'm just sitting back and laughing my ass off that fans of 3 different programs are wringing their hands about whether he was offered a scholarship by certain schools.

    PortlandSpartan

  • Good. It will make Coach D look that much better when this kid surprises everyone.

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  • T-Pain said...

    I disagree

    You've probably only read a small fraction of my posts on recruiting

    So what you're saying is you think you're an excellent recruiting annalist? Wow I'm shocked.

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    So what you're saying is you think you're an excellent recruiting annalist? Wow I'm shocked.

    Now you're putting words in my mouth

    TPain151807 ●

  • T-Pain said...

    The O-Line and D-Line recruiting issue isn't going away

    I've read several comments from people lately that reiterate what I've been saying

    Should MD go the JC route to get some lineman? Seems like that is where it's heading. By the way t-pain, you keep this up and you will lose your 4 star posting status. The fanboy haters are already starting to call for your banning. roflmao

    This post was edited by Tanfan on 6/28/2012 at 6:09 PM

    Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.

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  • Tanfan said...

    Should MD go the JC route to get some lineman? Seems like that is where it's heading. By the way t-pain, you keep this up and you will lose your 4 star posting status. The fanboy haters are already starting to call for your banning. roflmao

    Why would I get banned for talking about recruiting?

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  • Bruce Banner Ad said...

    Dantonio has him as a 4-star. Guess whose rating I trust the most.

    Exactly.

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  • T-Pain said...

    Why would I get banned for talking about recruiting?

    Trust in coach D. Wisky has been solid the past 15 years without getting tons of top 250? If coach D had a recruiting website, scout and rivals would go bankrupt. It is frustrating that we are whiffing on a lot of plan A linemen, but with our staff and how they develop players, I am not worried. I won't start worrying until we go back to winning 7 games and Michigan beats us 2 out of 3 years.

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  • Tanfan said...

    Should MD go the JC route to get some lineman? Seems like that is where it's heading. By the way t-pain, you keep this up and you will lose your 4 star posting status. The fanboy haters are already starting to call for your banning. roflmao

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  • T-Pain said...

    Why would I get banned for talking about recruiting?

    Oh come on now T-pain there are more reasons than that.

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  • Ce-ment said...

    I'm OK with reaches. Cousins (NFL) was a reach, Foreman (4 year starter) was a reach, KMart (NFL) was a reach, Blair White (NFL) was a reach that Coach D had to be talked into making,, TRob (NFL) was a reach, LVBell was a reach, Palazeti (probable 3 year starter) was a reach.

    I can live with those reaches. + 1

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  • Tanfan said...

    Should MD go the JC route to get some lineman? Seems like that is where it's heading. By the way t-pain, you keep this up and you will lose your 4 star posting status. The fanboy haters are already starting to call for your banning. roflmao

    Going the JC route now is not going to help the OL problem that may show up in 14, 15 and 16. Look for that in the 14 and 15 classes. Our recruiting has been decent the last couple of classes with the exception of the trenches on both sides. This is where for some reason we have lost out on every 4 star we pursued. WRs, Secondary, QB, LB recruiting have all been respectable. But in the OL and DL it seems the traditional power programs with brand names have pulled rank on us. Maybe its time we might look at the OL recruits at Purdue, IU, Illinois, Minny and NW and see if we cant flip a couple by pulling rank on them. Otherwise it is going to be total under the radar recruits with MAC offers.

    82msuspartan

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    No, because I think we recruited him primarily as a return specialist, not necessarily as a WR. Just because Mike Farrell at Rivals isn't a fan, doesn't mean a thing. A lot of the national recruiting evaluators that used to be at Rivals are no longer there.

    Farrell kinda dissed him today:

    "Harris did not have Penn State or Rutgers offers, Temple offered early but backed off, not sure about Maryland. But MSU likes him, has seen him likely more than we have so if they like then that's all that matters. But I've seen him at a camp and have seen film and I think he's a bit of a reach."

    Sounds like the SpartanMag mods jumped the gun a little bit on putting all those offers up, but a few issues arise from this:

    1) How often does Farrell check offers with kids that Penn State doesn't get and then go on to trash the recruit? Did he go behind the scenes to make sure Dee Cox had all of his offers? He went out of his way to post on that on the Rivals thread about Harris. Seems like the mods over on the Penn State Rivals site are doing some major damage control over this after it was published that the Penn State coaches loved Harris when he camped there... and now they've lost him to MSU. Seems like some spinning going on.

    2) How did Farrell know that information about Penn State, Rutgers and Temple before almost everyone else? If he's getting that info from a Penn State or Rutgers coach, that's an NCAA violation. He sure as hell didn't get it from Harris or his coach, who he essentially called a liar.

    3) Harris gets the 2star from Rivals and I'm OK with that because I know he will get bumped by the final update, but when York and Drake Johnson commit to Michigan with offers from EMU (Johnson) and Cincy and Syracuse (York), they immediately end up as 5.6s. Really all the concrete evidence you need for a bias right there.

    Lunchables

  • Lunchables said...

    Sounds like the SpartanMag mods jumped the gun a little bit on putting all those offers up, but a few issues arise from this:

    1) How often does Farrell check offers with kids that Penn State doesn't get and then go on to trash the recruit? Did he go behind the scenes to make sure Dee Cox had all of his offers? He went out of his way to post on that on the Rivals thread about Harris. Seems like the mods over on the Penn State Rivals site are doing some major damage control over this after it was published that the Penn State coaches loved Harris when he camped there... and now they've lost him to MSU. Seems like some spinning going on.

    2) How did Farrell know that information about Penn State, Rutgers and Temple before almost everyone else? If he's getting that info from a Penn State or Rutgers coach, that's an NCAA violation. He sure as hell didn't get it from Harris or his coach, who he essentially called a liar.

    3) Harris gets the 2star from Rivals and I'm OK with that because I know he will get bumped by the final update, but when York and Drake Johnson commit to Michigan with offers from EMU (Johnson) and Cincy and Syracuse (York), they immediately end up as 5.6s. Really all the concrete evidence you need for a bias right there.

    WOW! This is the best post of them all; evidence presented nicely.

    +10000

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  • 82msuspartan said...

    Our recruiting has been decent the last couple of classes with the exception of the trenches on both sides. This is where for some reason we have lost out on every 4 star we pursued.

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  • 82msuspartan said...

    Our recruiting has been decent the last couple of classes with the exception of the trenches on both sides.

    That's not true at all. Who were our first commits last year? Two Plan A linemen.

    F Michigan

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  • Trevor Barnes said...

    Nope. Spartan Mag reported that he did, but then both Jay himself and the guys at the PSU Rivals site denied that Penn State ever offered. The PSU offer was put on his Rivals profile for half a day, then later removed.

    His high school coach also said he had an offer from psu.

    I scrapped my rivals premium a few months ago but be mindful that. 247 was started by former rivals guys who were outed for inflating rankings for sites with high subscriber numbers.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by GreenMonet on 6/28/2012 at 11:29 PM

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  • Trevor Barnes said...

    Both ratings were recently updated...

    Ban this troll.

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