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Io Triumphe said...
I am simply stating that the image speaks more to the American Military complex that it does to humanize the atrocity of an event, thus I don't see how it can be one of the Most Powerful Photographs Ever Taken. This image doesn't, at least to me, give me any introspection. The Kevin Carter picture is extremely depressing as there is literally nothing this boy, and millions of others, can do to avoid dying and being picked apart by a waiting vulture. It puts life in perspective and makes me want to help the people that cannot do anything to help themselves. Tank Man gives me courage and strength to do what I believe is morally right in face of opposition including something as difficult as standing in front of an oppressive government's tank. If Tank Man had the balls to die for what he believes in by being run over, I can meet my challenges. Similarly to the Kent State picture as it brings opposition to the American right of protest much closer to home.
IMO, the picture of Iwo Jima speaks much more to the American Military and how it will stand up for what it believes is morally right. It will not falter and it will prevail. It will not give up. I think that's powerful, but it is not transcontinental in the same way these other pictures are. It doesn't put anything in perspective and ignores the massive use of flame throwers and the 20,000 plus dead Japanese. I don't think it would make a person living in another country proud of their own military any more than looking at pictures of the Russian military winning in Stalingrad does, which IMO, was the turning point of the Greatest War. If the picture is supposed to bring forth emotion of the soldiers that have died for our country and pride in the American military for standing up what they believe is right, than I would submit something from Antietam, the Deadliest Day in American History.
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CVSpartan said...
I would bet that the people of China, Korea, Burma and the Philliphines would love that photo since it meant that their hour of liberation was coming.
The photo has nothing to do with the military industrial complex. They didn't plant the Lockheed Martin corporate banner - it was Old Glory.
It represents the collective heroism of American citizen soldiers.
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Io Triumphe said...
I would highly doubt that China, North Korea and the like would love the photo. While the argument can be made that their liberation was close, many during the time thought that Iwo Jima was a useless mission and a waste of time and life. It wasn't until after the bombs were dropped that Iwo Jima was proved to be an important mission. Never the less, I stand by my earlier accounts that in February and March of 1945, Japan had no ability to win the war and Germany was on the verge of collapse. Even with out Iwo Jima and this photo, the war was not changed. This essence of change reverts me back to my original point that 40 of the Most Powerful Photographs Ever Taken need to provoke thought, change, and transcend time and culture. I don't think a successful American mission does that any more than something as important to the war as Stalingrad does. I don't see anyone putting forth a Russian photo from their victory and I think that was much more important to the war effort as a whole. Thus, I think that The Raising of the Flag at Iwo Jima is extremely important for American History, but it is not one of the Most Powerful Photographs Ever Taken.
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CVSpartan said...
Since when did the photos have to pass some type of Kerry like international test? Even if I agreed with your point this isn't the UN board. It is a board for fans of an American university.
Think what you wish but I find this approach bizarre in the extreme. Are you a foreign national?
This post was edited by RP McMurphy on 6/5/2012 at 8:09 AM
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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40 Of The Most Powerful Photographs Ever Taken