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A Little Rare Boise State News

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Yes.....it is very common for all our power conference opponents to transform themselves after their loss to BSU. What a crock of sh**.

    It is very common for power conference teams to undergo a transformation over the course of a season. When a team plays top competition week in and week out, they tend to discover their own weaknesses and learn how to improve their game. It's okay though... I wouldn't expect you to understand.

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    fishrose

  • fishrose said...

    It is very common for power conference teams to undergo a transformation over the course of a season. When a team plays top competition week in and week out, they tend to discover their own weaknesses and learn how to improve their game. It's okay though... I wouldn't expect you to understand.

    Well, then MSU better show up post-transformation unlike Oregon, Va Tech, and Georgia. BSU has proven it can play high quality football the first week of the season.

    BSUFAN9999

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Yes.....it is very common for all our power conference opponents to transform themselves after their loss to BSU. What a crock of sh**.

    Boise State would be lucky to finish above .500 if they played a true power conference schedule. You guys chicken out by only playing 1 power conference team a year.

    tVargMan Prime

  • Skip1856 said...

    Which incidentally, is why we're so hot on Damion Terry I'd imagine.

    MSU has been trying to get a good dual threat QB since Rob Bolden in the '10 class. Obviously that one was a fortunate miss, but the staff really would like someone a bit more mobile.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • VargMan said...

    Boise State would be lucky to finish above .500 if they played a true power conference schedule. You guys chicken out by only playing 1 power conference team a year.

    And that has 0 relevance to MSU's game against Boise. MSU IS the 1 power conf. team Boise is playing, so MSU had better be ready.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Well, then MSU better show up post-transformation unlike Oregon, Va Tech, and Georgia. BSU has proven it can play high quality football the first week of the season.

    You guys always show up in those games without question. Regardless, night games at Sparty stadium are a friggin' scene. It'll be packed to the gills, cocktails flowing, great environment. Spartan stadium is crazy loud for big games. I expect the game to get a huge Q rating as the first really big game of the season on ESPN.

    Skip1856

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Yes.....it is very common for all our power conference opponents to transform themselves after their loss to BSU. What a crock of sh**.

    He said Georgia got better as the season went on, not that it had anything to do with BSU. He also didn't say that was the case for any of the other games that BSU won.

    Last year MSU was a much much better team by about half way through the season. This kind of thing happens all the time, some teams get better, some get worse.

    BearMining4Coal

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Well, then MSU better show up awake unlike Oregon, Va Tech, and Georgia. Kellen Moore has proven he can play high quality football the first week of the season.

    Fixed it for you. Who's the big feather in your non-conference cap before 2008? Oregon State?

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  • BearMining4Coal said...

    He said Georgia got better as the season went on, not that it had anything to do with BSU. He also didn't say that was the case for any of the other games that BSU won.

    Last year MSU was a much much better team by about half way through the season. This kind of thing happens all the time, some teams get better, some get worse.

    Every team BSU has beaten is later said to be 'a different team now'. Every single time.

    BSUFAN9999

  • BearMining4Coal said...

    He said Georgia got better as the season went on, not that it had anything to do with BSU. He also didn't say that was the case for any of the other games that BSU won.

    Last year MSU was a much much better team by about half way through the season. This kind of thing happens all the time, some teams get better, some get worse.

    Yup, the MSU team that somehow lost at nd would have gotten rolled by the UGA team they played in the bowl, but would have had a good shot to beat the UGA team that lost their first two.

    BSU is a proven commodity. What does irk some people is that they don't have to prove themselves week-in and week-out, yet that is not their fault, they obviously look for big games the only time they can get them- non-conference and bowl games.

    Rocky broke down the advantage BSU gets in playing in their league quite well, and also pointed out that advantage won't exist in our game, as this is the first game for both teams, so MSU can't use that as any kind of excuse.

    BSU will not be intimidated. But in several areas, they will be inexperienced. Now, if Big Will pile drives the new QB a few times, or Allen pops the back-up TB, or McDonald pulls and pancakes a LB...that's when we'll find out about BSU- how they respond to being punched in the face for the first time.

    mentalstate

  • Man, this game is so far away. That's a bummer.

    I can already see how BSU is gonna try to handle our defense. Real quick, short passes to take pressure off their O-line. I really can't imagine them daring to try anything else given what they have coming back.

    I think it's gonna work for a while and be absolutely maddening. They might not score a lot but I think Boise will move the ball, much like YSU did.

    All Ages Shows

  • All Ages Shows said...

    Man, this game is so far away. That's a bummer.

    I can already see how BSU is gonna try to handle our defense. Real quick, short passes to take pressure off their O-line. I really can't imagine them daring to try anything else given what they have coming back.

    I think it's gonna work for a while and be absolutely maddening. They might not score a lot but I think Boise will move the ball, much like YSU did.

    One thing they can't practice for is that we can roll out Rocky's wet dream, and put 6'7 next to 6'7 on the DL, which can really mess up those throwing lanes on quick passes over the middle. Throw in 6'5 is Micah is in at the other DT, and well, the lanes start getting a lot smaller.

    What will be key if they go that route is to stop them short and bring up 3rd and 5 or longer. That will be how we get them off the field with consistency, force them to have to make longer plays, which take more time to develop.

    mentalstate

  • mentalstate said...

    One thing they can't practice for is that we can roll out Rocky's wet dream, and put 6'7 next to 6'7 on the DL, which can really mess up those throwing lanes on quick passes over the middle. Throw in 6'5 is Micah is in at the other DT, and well, the lanes start getting a lot smaller.

    What will be key if they go that route is to stop them short and bring up 3rd and 5 or longer. That will be how we get them off the field with consistency, force them to have to make longer plays, which take more time to develop.

    Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I'm spent.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • mentalstate said...

    One thing they can't practice for is that we can roll out Rocky's wet dream, and put 6'7 next to 6'7 on the DL, which can really mess up those throwing lanes on quick passes over the middle. Throw in 6'5 is Micah is in at the other DT, and well, the lanes start getting a lot smaller.

    What will be key if they go that route is to stop them short and bring up 3rd and 5 or longer. That will be how we get them off the field with consistency, force them to have to make longer plays, which take more time to develop.

    screw that. 6 DL formation. Gholston, Hoover, Rush, Calhoun, ARW every play, new guys get to play rock paper scissors on the sidelines while we're on offense for the 6th spot.

    Stick Max Bullough out there as the lone LB, have him yell weird shit while flexing, and all of a sudden we're the most confusing damn defense anyone has ever seen.

    Royal

  • VargMan said...

    Boise State would be lucky to finish above .500 if they played a true power conference schedule. You guys chicken out by only playing 1 power conference team a year.

    While this might be true, it's the games like these that BSU gets up for big time. It's their superbowl. They'll bite us in the ass if we're not prepared. I like our returning team and their demeanor, their work ethic and their attitude. Frankly, it's a great game to open up with. And it's dangerous.

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    DWags

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Every team BSU has beaten is later said to be 'a different team now'. Every single time.

    Yeah, it's a pretty bad cliche. I always thought the biggest growth of a team comes between the 2nd and 3rd game of the season. Just allows the team to settle into their routine. Remember the first game is just practice then play. The second game you have film of the first, film of the team your playing, preptime etc. However, it's really your first week of that routine. By the third game, you're actually in the second week of a solid routine, and there seems to be a "settling down" and way more learning going on. By the bowl game when those announcers are all using the tired cliche, every team is different, in many ways. Some, however are worse. That's when the coach starts looking for a new job.

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    DWags

  • How badly would Boise beat Alabama? Probably not a fair comparison.

    How badly would Boise beat the New England patriots? Their success is nice, sorry if I think it's a little inflated given they usually play no more than 2 teams with a pulse all year. Playing against a good team in game 1 and game 13 must be nice. You get a whole offseason to prepare for game 1 and a month for game 2. In between you play a schedule that makes the BIg East look like the NFC East.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Rogue Leader said...

    How badly would Boise beat Alabama? Probably not a fair comparison.

    How badly would Boise beat the New England patriots? Their success is nice, sorry if I think it's a little inflated given they usually play no more than 2 teams with a pulse all year. Playing against a good team in game 1 and game 13 must be nice. You get a whole offseason to prepare for game 1 and a month for game 2. In between you play a schedule that makes the BIg East look like the NFC East.

    This is why the SEC gets so much love by computers and selectors. To play that shit week after week can't be easy.

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    DWags

  • BSUFAN9999 said...

    Every team BSU has beaten is later said to be 'a different team now'. Every single time.

    Are you also a Michigan or ND fan? You sure like to talk about the past.

    You lose almost all of your starters on D and Kellen Moore. No one, not even Bama or LSU, recovers from that effortlessly in week one and plays at their usual high level. Boise will be on the road in a snake pit, at night, in the season opener, against the best and most-seasoned defense in the conference - a top 5 unit nationally. You are going to lose.

    This post was edited by chairman meow on 4/11/2012 at 6:13 PM

    chairman meow

  • D.Wags said...

    While this might be true, it's the games like these that BSU gets up for big time. It's their superbowl. They'll bite us in the ass if we're not prepared. I like our returning team and their demeanor, their work ethic and their attitude. Frankly, it's a great game to open up with. And it's dangerous.

    Well stated...i agree with you 100%.

    tVargMan Prime

  • Itz Pstein! said...

    Yea and he did really really well against us this past year. That has trap game written all over it.

    Last game of the season too. Better have the division locked up by then

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    Braintrust

  • SpartanRocky said...

    I truly believe that if @Nebraska had happened after a bye week that MSU would have won. You could tell State didn't have the energy in that game.

    I have the same concern with Nebraska this year; they're the 10th game of the season, all before any bye week.

    Agreed.

    Bye week after the 10th game? No help there. MSU has just another brutal stretch of games with Nebby at the end lurking.

    I think in Spartan Stadium though we will hold them to around 14-17 points.

    Walter_Sanchez

  • SpartanRocky said...

    MSU's offensive front just paved the way for the nation's #78 rush O, 11th in the conference. Though they are deep, and now I'd say experienced, I don't know how "talented" they are. There's potential there for a very good group, but their ability to run block is a question mark right now. Also, they were very good as pass-blocking . . . for a very experienced QB. I'd say MSU's OL has questions to be answered as well.

    Also, Ohio State was not a very good offensive team last year (11th in total O, 9th in Scoring O), and Wisconsin put up 31 and 42 points against MSU last season. Actually, most good to decent O's put up points on MSU: ND and WI scored 31 (regular season), Nebraska had 24, Minnesota put up 24 AT Spartan Stadium, Wisconsin scored 42 in the CCG and UGA put up 30 (Boise held them to 21 last year).

    Now, MSU's D was very good last year, but it wasn't an iron curtain.

    Cmon Rocky you are better than that. Team rushing offense stats are misleading when you factor in teams with dropback quarterbacks vs. option/running qb's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if you look at the rb per carry average, MSU was in the top half of the conference.

    Handbanana

  • Handbanana said...

    Cmon Rocky you are better than that. Team rushing offense stats are misleading when you factor in teams with dropback quarterbacks vs. option/running qb's. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe if you look at the rb per carry average, MSU was in the top half of the conference.

    Beyond that the numbers don't ever take into account punt and kick returns, field position, how often we picked up 2nd and short how often we used bubble screens or quick outs as long handoffs. It's real dangerous judging oline play on rushing yardage. Like porn you can't define good loin play, but know it when you see it. MSU's line play got better as the season went on. I believe what we saw at the end plus getting healthy and having good competition will give us the best oline here since the rosebowl. I hate numbers when it comes to football. You know good offenses and defenses when you see them n

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    DWags

  • I am the one that said 42-17.

    The down vote one is on the right, the upvote is on the left. I have correctly predicted our last two seasons results. green_koolaidbow

    Ok, so Boise has been great and will continue to be strong. If we do not come out firing we will get toasted. They return a good offense unit, except they do not know who their QB will be. According to Coach Petersonbow, they are all doing great. google ccripe to get all the details.

    Returning D-line starters 0-5, returning linebackers 1-3, defensive backfield http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/03/ccripe/ebo_makinde_hopes_solidify_boise_state_football_teams_depth_corn (hope link works) if not google ccripe it is not looking good for them.

    I think our D is going to be special. Boise's O will be in a hostile environment, with a new QB.... Which QB?

    Our O is facing a new starting D almost across the board. On O, we have an experienced line and running backs, Sims will be healthy and we know who our QB will be. He will get all the reps and will have the support of the team.

    I am excited for this year and I am predicting a blow out. If you down vote me fine, but man up come September.

    42-17, start of a great season.

    No disrespect to Boise. They have played anybody anywhere to their credit. I just think we are coming back strong and they have some rebuilding to do. Could I be wrong, yes. but I do not think so.

    I am ready for some football

    northandwells