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Am I the only one who likes coach cal?

  • Lunchables said...

    You think he just hands the ball to multiple waves of freshmen each year and says "Here, go out there and do whatever" and they just magically come out as a Top 5 team each year? That's laughable. If letting freshmen go out there and do work is that easy, why hasn't Duke or UNC been able to do the same with all the McDonald's AAs they've brought in year after year after year? A team this young has only been able to do this once and it was the Fab 5... and that was just one crop of kids. Calipari has gotten three different classes to at least the Elite 8 and to two Final 4s. Take off your hate hat and realize that he coaches these kids up at least a little bit. They're the best defensive team in the country and you think that's because of the kids?

    I think this is a pretty fair post and point. I do have a hate hat on right now because this Kentucky squad and what they're doing is making me very bitter about the game and tournament in general right now.

    And yes, there is no doubt Cal has gotten this team to buy in and play great defense this year. More so than his squads have in the past. He does have them playing together, but I think my point at large stands. I think he is a very mediocre in game coach. I think that if you handed these kids to any number of coaches, they could do similar or better things with them in terms of tournament success.

    Knibb High football rules

    WhiteBoyHatcher

  • BH Spartan said...

    He's a product of the defunct NCAA. Don't hate Cal, hate his overlords.

    Well put BH. Cal has said on numerous occasions that he prefers a system that requires 3 years at the college level. Not his fault that the NCAA turds made it a one and done system.

    Jack Passion

  • WhiteBoyHatcher said...

    Um yes, they did out-athlete Louisville today. Pitino is playing a matchup zone, applying full court pressure occasionally, working plays out of timeouts and they stayed in the game basically with 2 players and coaching. Level the talent on those two teams and who did the superior coaching job today? What exactly did Cal do to counter the zone? Louisville flustered them, and hung in the game but ultimately with athletes of that caliber who can shoot like that, you can only plug the dam with your thumb for so long.

    I am not a basketball coach, so perhaps my take is shallow in your mind, but I watch my fair share of college hoops and I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Cal is a mediocre at best in-game coach. If he didn't have success on the recruiting trail, he would have little success at all in my opinion.

    But its hard to be a real tactician with mostly freshman and sophomores. He has to keep everything simple because he has a constant rotation of players coming and going. Give him a group of seniors and I'm sure his "in game" coaching will look much better.

    BH Spartan

  • Jack Passion said...

    Well put BH. Cal has said on numerous occasions that he prefers a system that requires 3 years at the college level. Not his fault that the NCAA turds made it a one and done system.

    The NCAA has no control over it being a one and done system. That's a product of NBA rules.

    PRStoetzer

  • PRStoetzer said...

    The NCAA has no control over it being a one and done system. That's a product of NBA rules.

    BS - NCAA controls eligibility rules. I see your point that the NBA has the 19 year old limit, but the NCAA has the power to control eligibility.

    BH Spartan

  • BH Spartan said...

    BS - NCAA controls eligibility rules. I see your point that the NBA has the 19 year old limit, but the NCAA has the power to control eligibility.

    Both probably have some control over it. Kind of ridiculous that they have a 1 year system. Really an insult to the term "Student Athlete".

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    Both probably have some control over it. Kind of ridiculous that they have a 1 year system. Really an insult to the term "Student Athlete".

    You know what else is an insult to the term "student athlete"? Recruiting kids who don't even take their own SAT.

    tRCMB - Visit at your own risk of being disgusted.

    Gob_Bluth

  • Jack Passion said...

    Seriously though, I find it pretty amazing that he takes in so many highly touted freshman every year and is able to put their egos aside and have them play unselfish basketball. Don't think many coaches would be able to do that.

    I always laugh when I hear this. It's like being impressed that a multi millionaire didn't go bankrupt. Gosh, I can't believe a coach can take an NBA team deep into the tournament! It's got to be so much easier doing it with scrubs. If Cal is such an artist at managing egos, then why did he flame out of the NBA so quickly, a league rampant with egotism? Oh, I guess because you need good players to win. Imagine that.

    At worst, Calipari is a cheater, directly involved in play-for-pay. Only rumor at this point, so I won't hold it against him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Usually where there's a lot of smoke there's fire. I mean, World Wide Wes hangs out at UK practices fer christ sakes.

    At best, Calipari is shady as fuck, who's left a black eye on every place he's bolted from. Even if he is not directly cheating, his track record shows he has little regard for compliance by taking the "look the other way" approach.

    But who cares because he's a nice guy on TV, right?

    :eyeroll:

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    I always laugh when I hear this. It's like being impressed that a multi millionaire didn't go bankrupt. Gosh, I can't believe a coach can take an NBA team deep into the tournament! It's got to be so much easier doing it with scrubs. If Cal is such an artist at managing egos, then why did he flame out of the NBA so quickly, a league rampant with egotism? Oh, I guess because you need good players to win. Imagine that.

    At worst, Calipari is a cheater, directly involved in play-for-pay. Only rumor at this point, so I won't hold it against him, but I wouldn't be surprised. Usually where there's a lot of smoke there's fire. I mean, World Wide Wes hangs out at UK practices fer christ sakes.

    At best, Calipari is shady as fuck, who's left a black eye on every place he's bolted from. Even if he is not directly cheating, his track record shows he has little regard for compliance by taking the "look the other way" approach.

    But who cares because he's a nice guy on TV, right?

    :eyeroll:

    You jelly.

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    Well put BH. Cal has said on numerous occasions that he prefers a system that requires 3 years at the college level. Not his fault that the NCAA turds made it a one and done system.

    Of course he does. Would his recruiting "tactics" change if the kids had to stay 3 years instead of 1? No. He would be getting the same kids, but keeping them longer.

    aroz13

  • aroz13 said...

    Of course he does. Would his recruiting "tactics" change if the kids had to stay 3 years instead of 1? No. He would be getting the same kids, but keeping them longer.

    lol. You think the players he has right now would be going to college? Not a chance, they'd be NBA bound in a second.

    Jack Passion

  • HE IS SCum. His record speaks for itself. Is vacate a good thing?

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    Spartan8Ball

  • Jack Passion said...

    You jelly.

    You know, that line might actually work on any other fan base in America. But I kinda prefer having a guy with more Final Fours, a national title, and none of them vacated. Call me crazy!

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    You know, that line might actually work on any other fan base in America. But I kinda prefer having a guy with more Final Fours, a national title, and none of them vacated. Call me crazy!

    2 FF in three years at UK, Coach Cal is just taking advantage of the times, can't blame him.

    Jack Passion

  • Jack Passion said...

    2 FF in three years at UK, Coach Cal is just taking advantage of the times, can't blame him.

    Again, yes you can. You can always blame the shitbird.

    But maybe repeat it a couple more times and you'll be able to convince us.

    numberonealcove

  • WhiteBoyHatcher said...

    Um yes, they did out-athlete Louisville today. Pitino is playing a matchup zone, applying full court pressure occasionally, working plays out of timeouts and they stayed in the game basically with 2 players and coaching. Level the talent on those two teams and who did the superior coaching job today? What exactly did Cal do to counter the zone? Louisville flustered them, and hung in the game but ultimately with athletes of that caliber who can shoot like that, you can only plug the dam with your thumb for so long.

    I am not a basketball coach, so perhaps my take is shallow in your mind, but I watch my fair share of college hoops and I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Cal is a mediocre at best in-game coach. If he didn't have success on the recruiting trail, he would have little success at all in my opinion.

    So how do you explain MSU and Coach Izzo getting schooled by Louisville? Does that make Coach Izzo a mediocre coach? We lost by 13 and Kentucky won and was in control most of the game. Of course they have more talent than MSU but it's ignorant to say Cal is not a quality coach.

    MSchott

  • MSchott said...

    So how do you explain MSU and Coach Izzo getting schooled by Louisville? Does that make Coach Izzo a mediocre coach? We lost by 13 and Kentucky won and was in control most of the game. Of course they have more talent than MSU but it's ignorant to say Cal is not a quality coach.

    He can recruit and babysit. Good for him.

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    Spartan8Ball

  • Jack Passion said...

    Always seems like a good guy who cares about his players whenever he talks shrug

    Good coach, great interview, fantastic recruiter, world class opportunist, and the biggest cheating slime ball the sports world has known to date.

    I'm a hater and I'm gonna hate. I put the Over under on this years banner(s) coming down at 2.5 years

    spartykid

  • Jack Passion said...

    2 FF in three years at UK, Coach Cal is just taking advantage of the times, can't blame him.

    I can honestly say I would not want Calipari as my head coach even if I was a fan of some middling school. The wins would feel cheapened and the off-seasons spent with anxiety wondering if/when the NCAA will drop the hammer. No thanks. Plus I really enjoy watching and getting to know our players as they transform from freshmen to seniors, like Day Day.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • Jack Passion said...

    2 FF in three years at UK, Coach Cal is just taking advantage of the times, can't blame him.

    Steve Fisher, is that you?

    aroz13

  • PRStoetzer said...

    The reason I'm not as anti-Cal as the rest of you is that he's friends with Izzo.

    In Izzo I trust.

    It was Cal who convinced Izzo not to take the Atlanta job in 2000.

    This post was edited by rob on 3/31/2012 at 10:48 PM

    "I think the world is run by C students" Al Mcguire

    rob

  • PRStoetzer said...

    The reason I'm not as anti-Cal as the rest of you is that he's friends with Izzo.

    In Izzo I trust.

    So I should base every single opinion on whatever Izzo thinks? I'm sorry I love Izzo as much as anyone but that's a little much.

    If Izzo liked coleslaw should I also like coleslaw just because Izzo likes it even though I hate it?

    Formerly Blade Runner.

    tManWithNoName

  • Jack Passion said...

    Always seems like a good guy who cares about his players whenever he talks shrug

    Yes.

    spartanMF

  • MSchott said...

    I think he's a hell of a good coach and of course an awesome recruiter. As long as the NCAA and NBA let colleges recruit one and done's, you can't complain about his program at UK. Other than the obvious talent, they always play hard, play great defense and play together. Today's game matched up two of the best coaches in the country.

    a hell of a good coach? roflmao

    Cal is a mediocre basketball coach...at best. what he is is a master at using guys like Worldwide Wes and their connections to guys like Jay Z - who was behind the KY bench tonight - to convince talented players to come play for him for one or two years because he's great at "developing" them for the NBA. he doesn't give a shit about Kentucky or college basketball....he cares about all the ancillary deals he has going that have made him a very rich man who has a litany of even richer men playing in the league. he is single handedly trying to ruin college basketball by making a mockery of the entire concept of college athletics. It's been on shaky ground for a while now, but he doesn't even pretend to give a shit about educations. He runs an NBA Development squad, and that's all he cares about.

    and even WITH all that talent at his disposal, he routinely loses in the big game because he's simply not a good coach, and he's particularly useless in a close game in crunch time. he doesn't have the slightest fucking clue of how to draw up a winning play when they need it because he has 5 guys who are all stars that do it for him. just give it to Gilchrist or Jones or Lamb or Davis and let them make a shot. That's his game plan. it happens to work especially well this year because I think Davis is an exceptionally talented and uncommonly mature kid. Derrick Rose was not. John Wall was a joke. He'll probably win....but don't pretend it isn't a terrible thing for the sport and the ability of other schools who actually give a shit about the fact that they are a UNIVERSITY to compete with his band of Jay Z slurping all stars.

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  • MSchott said...

    Typical shallow take. Did Kentucky just out athlete Louisville today? Of course they are more athletic but they play tough defense and play as a team. Cal doesn't sit on the sidelines and let them play street ball dude.

    That's exactly what they did lol PItino coached circles around Cal today...just like he always does. Louisville out hustled and out toughed Kentucky to stay in that game, but they simply didn't have the firepower to compete with the endless stream of NBA ready guys. the fact that Cal only won that game by a few points is a perfect illustration of why he's a shitty coach. How many guys on that Louisville team are going in the first round? 5 from KY are.

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