MSU Red Cedar Message Board

Not odd at all. We could really use some depth at PG, and if Trice continues to develop, he's going to be a damn fine PG.

That seems like a rather arbitrary metric to use, especially since Scout's rankings haven't been updated as recently as Rivals and ESPN.

Since when is Mr.Basketball considered a reliable indicator of much of anything? Come on. Same with the McDonald's game.

GR3 had a great post-season tournament performance and I imagine he will rise in Scout's rankings when they are re-done. As it stands now, he is higher on Rivals and a whopping 7 spots behind Harris on ESPN (#11 to #18). Is it really that hard to admit they are similar?

and we were also a lot better team who are gaining a lot more than UM is. and our strengths are in our younger guys who will improve. This team is DEEP - Michigan has Burke and Hardaway and some unproven freshmen. that's it. how in god's name is that the #5 team? I just don't get it.

You don't think Harris is very important to MSU success this year? And I do not think UM needs Robinson to average 35 minutes a game or anything insane like that. Not sure where you are getting that from.

Unless he's Anthony Davis, there is no way in hell he's so good he can replace 3 players and make this a top ten team.

LMAO. Are you out of your mind? So you think they just randomly pick these things? Oh right, an MSU recruit getting voted Mr. Basketball in a state loaded with talent is completely arbitrary. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

They aren't similar. They play different positions, they have different strengths, different expectations, and one is widely considered to be a better player than the other. Must you make them similar just to justify the crazy expectations your fanbase will place on him?

Just a tip: I know you guys aren't used to getting top 30 basketball recruits to sign with you, but they don't all end up as All Conference players right out the chute. Temper your expectations a bit, especially for a recruit whose best offer was Michigan. GRIII may end up the #1 pick in the 2013 draft for all I know.. but there are no indications of it, and whatever spin you will apply to this post is complete bullshit.

Or just one guy. I'd be very surprised if the preseason polls come out and Michigan is at #5 not that they mean a damn thing in basketball anyway.

Katz bases everything on 3 recruits.

"After flirting with the NBA, Trey Burke decided to remain in Ann Arbor. That's huge for the Wolverines, who would've had a serious void at the point without the invaluable Burke. He will join Tim Hardaway Jr., and a loaded freshman class that includes ESPNU 100 recruits Mitch McGary, Glenn Robinson Jr., and Nik Stauskas. This team is loaded and as long as the newcomers blend in, there's no reason to believe Michigan can't compete at the highest level in both the Big Ten and nationally."

what about the bench? who will back up Burke? Spike? This is not Michigan hatred, it's basic logic. putting them 5th after their flameouts this year in the BTT and NCAAs is sheer lunacy.

Alright, well then, the next question should be: does similar rankings mean that they are simliar players?

Harris is ahead in the only rankings that most college basketball fans really care about: the Scout ones. And I don't particularly care for rankigns much at all anyways. My argument is with the contention that they are the same in terms of talent and potential. And based on overall body of work, from all-America games to offers to high school accolades, is that they are not. This isn't to say that GRIII is not a great player; he may well be, but Harris is in an elite class.

Not nearly as important as GR III having a good year for Michigan. Between Trice, appling, valentine, and kearney, MSU should be just fine in the backcourt with an average year from Harris. I dont think the same can be said for Michigan and GR III.

I know he is- I said where they were ranked earlier in the thread. You really think there is a huge gap between the #11 and #18 player in the country?

If you knew anything about the state of indiana and their mr basketball voting it is much more political than the state of michigan has ever been.

The fact that Harris won that vote over Ferrell who is going to IU speaks volumes as to what people think of him. GR3 is a good ball player as well and to sit here and try to use recruiting services as justification to say they are close to each other is dumb.

Simple solution find a tape of the their game this season...GR3 did his scoring when Harris wasn't guarding him and when they were 1 on 1 with each other Harris completely owned him all game long. I mean when it comes to sports actually playing against each other should mean more than what some 45 yr old short balding guy has to say about their games right?