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Joe D said they could be active at the deadline.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120308/SPORTS0102/203080388

I'll be keeping an eye out for sure.

Seeing that the Lakers would be interested in WIll Bynum as a last resort if all their other PG targets fall through.

Giving Tayshaun all that money in the first place was moronic.

For Tayshaun.....anybody have a couple raggedy old driveway basketballs where you can't see the brand anymore? An open bag of chips, a half eaten bagel with gum stuck to it.

Don't forget about Austin Daye, which is easy to do since he's only seen when the camera pans down the bench.

Yea I wonder if they could move him for a pick or something; don't know.

He's making the average for his experience and position. Not "all that money". He's still a good solid NBA player.

Austin Daye was a way better draft pick than that guy I orginally wanted out of Carolina.....Ty something??

Ugh... Such whiney Pistons fans, whom I'm positive have watched less than 2 games this year. Tayshaun is exactly the player this Piston team needs because he plays defense, which is what Frank is trying to get the team to do - look at the job he did on Kobe last week. Also, he isn't overpaid and for his production and service time he is actually underpaid.

As far as this Austin Daye hindsight bullshit goes... 1. Using the same crystal ball that you obviously own, I'd rather have Knight than Lawson. And 2. Any player drafted, yes even Lawson, would have been poisoned by the last few toxic years under 3 coaches. Frank is trying to get him to play defense, something the other coaches haven't asked him to do. Now he needs to work harder and make a better effort and contribution, but with a new coach, no preseason and a shortened compacted regular season, fans should be willing to give the guy 1 more year to prove himself.

As far as the original topic goes, I doubt the Pistons would trade any productive young assets like Monroe, Knight, or Jerebko and Stuckey can't be traded. Cheap veteran role players like Bynum, Maxiell, Wallace or Wilkins could be traded but it would only be for a pick or a young player with talent, something they probably aren't going to get offered unless a playoff team falls in love or gets desperate. Same goes with younger unproductive players like Daye or Macklin, although they would probably trade them for an all-hustle vet player who helps them shape this new defensive identity like Jon Berry did all those years ago. Walker Russell is on borrowed time and can't be traded.

Now the players that could definitely be traded... but won't... Prince, Gordon, and Villanueva. Prince would need to return an unprotected draft pick and/or a young talented starter. Prince has been a Piston lifer and is probably their best defender. He does have moments of laziness and petulance, but overall he is the vet mentor and one of those players that keeps a talented roster from becoming a group of loser AAU knuckleheads like the Wizards. Now I think his price tag is too high for most teams and there aren't many desperate for a small forward.

Gordon could be had for an expiring contract and a pick or a player with untapped potential. Unfortunately his contract is bad for his production and he is most likely viewed as a bench player on a playoff team due to his tweener status.

Charlie V could be had for nothing... Best case scenario would be a low post player making a similar salary with fewer years. This would be a swap of junk... Now the thing is, I'm not sure Charlie would be considered a bad teammate, one of the few instances his softness comes as a plus. He seems to have a positive attitude despite being garbage, so I'm not sure Joe would want to trade for a player with a salty disposition unless he could be bought out or released due to an expiring contract. Also, Charlie hasn't been healthy all year but should get a game or 2 to show something before the trade deadline. He's going to stay a Piston unfortunately.

So unfortunately, IMHO, I don't see a trade this season... Maybe in the offseason, though, before the draft.

How in the hell are you losing by 24 to the Raptors in the 2nd quarter?

Hot mess much?

I think they had the scores transposed, or I'm like 75x more drunk than I've ever been.

FYI: I 'm pretty sure the block on Reggie was during their quest to the title in '04.