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msusnee said...
Based on what we know right now (ray's comments from a couple weeks ago, the media finding out via the roster release, and Ray not being the one to announce it) it seems like it probably wasn't is decision. That doesn't mean it's not what is best both for him and for the football team though. Ray may very well know in his head that it's time to move on, but it doesn't mean his heart's ready.
He's busted his ass over the past 5 years and it's disappointing to see it end this way. It would have been great to see him take his final steps off the football field next year in Pasadena as a starter and All-Big Ten player, but that's not how his story is going to play out. He's a great kid that can do great things, unfortunately it appears they won't be on the football field.
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Monklife said...
Once Burbridge and Mills qualified, they probably needed the scholarship.
From The Only Colors
http://www.theonlycolors.com/2012/8/2/3216218/five-fall-camp-story-lines
4. So what's going on with Arthur Ray Jr.?
Yeah, this is something I haven't necessarily read a lot about, but is a pretty uncomfortable side-plot. Every good Spartan knows Ray's story: after signing his LOI in 2007 he started chemo on a cancerous growth in his leg and didn't enroll until the Spring of '08. He then faced a reinfection that forced numerous more surgeries and missed the 2008, 2009, and 2010 seasons. All through this time Dantonio and MSU stuck by Ray, and in 2011 he was healthy enough to see the football field. He got a (ceremonial, but nonetheless) start against Youngstown State and saw the field in two other blowout games. He also graduated, and won a handful of awards for his battle back to the field. A truly inspiring story. That now gets awkward.
See, Ray wants to play his 6th, and maybe 7th, year of eligibility at Michigan State. Dantonio, somewhat understandably, seems reluctant to give a 6th year to a player who has already graduated and isn't currently breaking into MSU's 3 deeps at any position. This situation raises questions about what exactly a school owes an athlete who's struggled with a non-athletics based injury that has hurt the athlete's past and current prospects at playing time. Do they owe five years, until the player graduates, or as many as the NCAA grants the player?
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Monklife said...
See, Ray wants to play his 6th, and maybe 7th, year of eligibility at Michigan State. Dantonio, somewhat understandably, seems reluctant to give a 6th year to a player who has already graduated and isn't currently breaking into MSU's 3 deeps at any position. This situation raises questions about what exactly a school owes an athlete who's struggled with a non-athletics based injury that has hurt the athlete's past and current prospects at playing time. Do they owe five years, until the player graduates, or as many as the NCAA grants the player?
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MLeagueGreen said...
I overheard at the spring game some coaches yelling at each other to get ARJ the **** out of the game before he hurts himself.... I was surprised to hear that. Then ARJ was deciding to play or not after spring ball according to a few tweets.... I'm not sure how effective he would be and I heard there was some speculation that his conditioning wasn't where it needed to be. --I'm a huge ARJ fan, helped raise almost 2k for him by selling some signed photos maybe 4 yrs ago on here. Being a cancer survivor myself I truly was amazed and happy about him making it back... I believe he's a grad student but not 100%, going off memory.
Only thing is I wish MD may have handled the announcement better. I love MD and the program but the one thing I think he has to improve on is his communication to media, fans, alum, etc.... Pretty petty complaint! Lucky. It's like the one complaint I have about my wife is she doesn't put enough spices in the food... very lucky with MD and wife.
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MindlessChaos said...
General question not necessarily replying to this quote:
Would they have dropped him from the roster to potentially protect him from getting injured if he did play? Not trying to put a "slappy" spin on it but I am surprised to hear this news after he has been with the team so far.
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Lunchables said...
I'm sure he's fine. This had been coming for a while. Dantonio has been deflecting questions on him since spring ball. As previous poster said, it was most likely a mutual decision. He had his opportunity last year to show that he made the comeback and he did just that. If he isn't on the depth chart and helping the team win games, I don't think it serves much of a purpose for him to continue when he's already accomplished what he set out to do.
He's a great Spartan. Best of luck to him going forward.
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Spartan8Ball said...
I see alot of sunshine blowing in here. Ray wanted on that roster and MD said, no. How can you spin this as a mutual decision?
I love coach but he made the wrong call.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by GRR Spartan on 8/4/2012 at 4:41 PM
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GRR Spartan said...
85 scholarship limit. 105 player roster.
Ray got his degree, got world class rehab, got to play in a game.
What he lost out on was several years of training with Coach Manne and several years of learning the right position technique required for D1 football. Like another poster mentioned, he say Ray with Conway and Ray looked small. That's what happens when you are having surgeries and chemo while the other folks competing for your position spend all that time with speed / strength / position coaches.
I hope Mr. Ray has a long life and does well in whatever career he chooses.
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Arthur Ray does not make 105-man roster