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Athlon Sports...You Crazy...scUM #7 MSU #18 Pre-Season Ranks

  • tritongreen said...

    Their job is to sell magazines and whether you want to admit it or not, um in the top 10 sells magazines.

    So what?

    Spartexaco

  • I think Athlon and The Sporting News are now owned by Advanced Media.

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    RPMadMSU

  • I wonder how high they will be ranked after we grind their terrible lines into the ground on October 20th. Do they plan on using their secondary to stop Bell? Their interior line on offense and defense is goint to be average at best. I sense an ass beating for them this year. Something similar to 2010. Their depth and experience in the trenches is garbage compared to what they had last year. This game is going to be 'Pound Green Pound' just like it was in 2010.

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    Online Predator

  • tritongreen said...

    Their job is to sell magazines and whether you want to admit it or not, um in the top 10 sells magazines.

    Then put boibeys in the mag, and quit fluffing ingrates.

    Loose Stools ●

  • Disgusting.

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    TheBlitzIsOn ●

  • Also, Texas at 11 is rediculos.

    Spartan_Jag ●

  • Spartexaco said...

    So what?

    So the rankings are a farce when revenue drives them?

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Spartan8Ball said...

    Pay up Rocky!

    It's all based on the Bama game. Build the hype, build the brand, and higher tv views.

    The bet is the AP or Coaches poll. Last time I checked, Athlon's is neither ;).

    They had ND 6th last year and the Irish began in the mid-teens in the real polls. Don't pop the Cristal yet.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    The bet is the AP or Coaches poll. Last time I checked, Athlon's is neither ;).

    They had ND 6th last year and the Irish began in the mid-teens in the real polls. Don't pop the Cristal yet.

    I know, just keeping you on your toes. lol

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  • Online Predator said...

    I wonder how high they will be ranked after we grind their terrible lines into the ground on October 20th. Do they plan on using their secondary to stop Bell? Their interior line on offense and defense is goint to be average at best. I sense an ass beating for them this year. Something similar to 2010. Their depth and experience in the trenches is garbage compared to what they had last year. This game is going to be 'Pound Green Pound' just like it was in 2010.

    Considering they'll be 4-2 at best, probably 3-3 when we come to town, I highly doubt they'll be ranked at all. They sure as hell won't be after we're through with them.

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  • I looked at who they showed for both State's and um's best players and maybe 2 of the 10 um players would start at State; Roundtree and maybe Lewan. Dreadlocks is kind of a throw away as he does not fit the system and would probably start at receiver.

    But let's look at the two teams in the entirety. Would anyone on um's defense start on State's D. I do not think so. On offense maybe left guard and tackle, but it would be a battle and Roundtree would probably start at as a wideout. Other wideout positions might be up for grabs, but I think Arnett would be the favorite for the slot. The backfield and tight end would go to State, as I believe Bell to be better than Toussant. Call that a toss up if you want..

    I would take Conroy and Sadler as well.

    The one argument, Maxwell is unproven I get, but the assumption quail arm is suddenly going throw less interceptions and be a better passer with a weaker line and receiving corp is ????.

    northandwells

  • northandwells said...

    I looked at who they showed for both State's and um's best players and maybe 2 of the 10 um players would start at State; Roundtree and maybe Lewan. Dreadlocks is kind of a throw away as he does not fit the system and would probably start at receiver.

    But let's look at the two teams in the entirety. Would anyone on um's defense start on State's D. I do not think so. On offense maybe left guard and tackle, but it would be a battle and Roundtree would probably start at as a wideout. Other wideout positions might be up for grabs, but I think Arnett would be the favorite for the slot. The backfield and tight end would go to State, as I believe Bell to be better than Toussant. Call that a toss up if you want..

    I would take Conroy and Sadler as well.

    The one argument, Maxwell is unproven I get, but the assumption quail arm is suddenly going throw less interceptions and be a better passer with a weaker line and receiving corp is ????.

    but didn't you read? "Al Borges said in spring ball that Robinson had decreased his interceptions by a factor of four over the previous season."

    I've read that 20 times and it is still the single most meaningless statement i've ever read in a sports prediction. I have no idea what a 'factor of four' is....but its ludicrous to assume he's going to suddenly be a great QB (and these idiots refer to him as the "best QB in the Big Ten").

    What is really funny is all 5 of their "experts" have us going 3-2 in division games - losing to Nebraska at home and at Michigan - all of them. one says it's technically possible to go 4-1, but don't count on it. They refer to Michigan as the "favorites to win the Big Ten" in every B1G team review they've done...it's all laughably bad. the "will Denard be in NY for the Heisman ceremony?" debate page is hilarious. It's like MGoBlog decided to start a magazine lol

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  • scUM fanbase is about 10,000x larger than ours.

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  • That's just simply not true.

    Edit: In reply to Big Ten Referee.

    This post was edited by Master Tang on 5/26/2012 at 2:54 PM

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    Master Tang ●

  • Really? Nebraska is a worldbeater now? WTF? Nebraska is Iowa with a QB who has a noodle arm. If we play Nebraska anywhere besides the end of that ridiculous stretch, we win handily.

    And Michigan? Do people not realize that we dominated them from start to finish last year? And that they lose everything from last year's team? They have no linemen. Or linebackers. Or quarterbacks. Just a shifty RB who plays wildcat and the hype machine the likes of which humanity can only hope to one day comprehend.

    This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 5/26/2012 at 6:24 PM

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  • iheart_rashes said...

    Really? Nebraska is a worldbeater now? WTF? Nebraska is Iowa with a QB who has a noodle arm. If we play Nebraska anywhere besides the end of that ridiculous stretch, we win handily.

    And Michigan? Do people not realize that we dominated them from start to finish last year? And that they lose everything from last year's team? They have no linemen. Or linebackers. Or quarterbacks. Just a shifty RB who plays wildcat and the hype machine the likes of which humanity can only hope to one day comprehend.

    Don't worry about it. State plays both those teams. Let them be ranked high as can be.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • boozhoo said...

    Considering they'll be 4-2 at best, probably 3-3 when we come to town, I highly doubt they'll be ranked at all. They sure as hell won't be after we're through with them.

    loco They'll be 4-2 at worst. What other team is particularly likely to beat them in the first six games besides Alabama? Notre Dame might, but they always manage to choke against Michigan. That's it. Purdue and Illinois have no chance.

    This post was edited by chairman meow on 5/26/2012 at 6:32 PM

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  • northandwells said...

    But let's look at the two teams in the entirety. Would anyone on um's defense start on State's D. I do not think so. On offense maybe left guard and tackle, but it would be a battle and Roundtree would probably start at as a wideout. Other wideout positions might be up for grabs, but I think Arnett would be the favorite for the slot. The backfield and tight end would go to State, as I believe Bell to be better than Toussant. Call that a toss up if you want..

    I would take Conroy and Sadler as well.

    The one argument, Maxwell is unproven I get, but the assumption quail arm is suddenly going throw less interceptions and be a better passer with a weaker line and receiving corp is ????.

    You guys are really underrating Michigan's offensive line IMO. They return 3 full time starters from a year ago and another (Barnum) who was an opening day starter. I know I'll get neg bombed to eternity for this, but I honestly do not get why many MSU posters seem to think MSU's OL is going to be better than Michigan's. Michigan had the #13 rushing offense in the country last year. MSU was #78. I know MSU returns a lot and gets guys back from injury, but I still do not understand why you guys don't think Michigan will have a good OL.

    Big M

  • Big M said...

    You guys are really underrating Michigan's offensive line IMO. They return 3 full time starters from a year ago and another (Barnum) who was an opening day starter. I know I'll get neg bombed to eternity for this, but I honestly do not get why many MSU posters seem to think MSU's OL is going to be better than Michigan's. Michigan had the #13 rushing offense in the country last year. MSU was #78. I know MSU returns a lot and gets guys back from injury, but I still do not understand why you guys don't think Michigan will have a good OL.

    You'd have to be wildly uninformed to think MSU will have the better O-line. Our O-line is good at the best of times and sub-mediocre at the worst. I don't think a lot of us are comparing O-lines, though, because that's irrelevant. Our D-line (and defense as a whole) will be much, much better than yours. That's what you should be worrying about.

    chairman meow

  • chairman meow said...

    You'd have to be wildly uninformed to think MSU will have the better O-line. Our O-line is good at the best of times and sub-mediocre at the worst. I don't think a lot of us are comparing O-lines, though, because that's irrelevant. Our D-line (and defense as a whole) will be much, much better than yours. That's what you should be worrying about.

    Well, I've seen a lot like the post I responded to- that UM would be lucky to have 2 starters on MSU's OL, etc.

    And yes, I am worried about MSU's D, though I think replacing Worthy and Pickelman might be a bigger deal than MSU fans are expecting.

    Big M

  • Big M said...

    You guys are really underrating Michigan's offensive line IMO. They return 3 full time starters from a year ago and another (Barnum) who was an opening day starter. I know I'll get neg bombed to eternity for this, but I honestly do not get why many MSU posters seem to think MSU's OL is going to be better than Michigan's. Michigan had the #13 rushing offense in the country last year. MSU was #78. I know MSU returns a lot and gets guys back from injury, but I still do not understand why you guys don't think Michigan will have a good OL.

    Because I watch film. And if you think a scrambling qb who creates stuff on his own and gets a ton of yardage and skews the rushing stats and makes some people think Michigan has some good run blocking linemen, well, I'd just ask you to watch film. Then pray denied skews those stats again.

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  • D.Wags said...

    Because I watch film. And if you think a scrambling qb who creates stuff on his own and gets a ton of yardage and skews the rushing stats and makes some people think Michigan has some good run blocking linemen, well, I'd just ask you to watch film. Then pray denied skews those stats again.

    Come on. Most of his yards came on designed runs, and you forget that Michigan had a 1,000 yard RB who only started the second half of the season. Denard has never been an amazing scrambler- are you sure you were watching film?

    Big M

  • Big M said...

    Come on. Most of his yards came on designed runs, and you forget that Michigan had a 1,000 yard RB who only started the second half of the season. Denard has never been an amazing scrambler- are you sure you were watching film?

    Don't turn this into a Michigan thing

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  • chairman meow said...

    loco They'll be 4-2 at worst. What other team is particularly likely to beat them in the first six games besides Alabama? Notre Dame might, but they always manage to choke against Michigan. That's it. Purdue and Illinois have no chance.

    I think they'll be 4-2 but it's foolhardy to say PU and UI have no chance. This isn't a dominant UM team. Shoehorn can give a game away with his arm on any given week.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Big M said...

    Well, I've seen a lot like the post I responded to- that UM would be lucky to have 2 starters on MSU's OL, etc.

    And yes, I am worried about MSU's D, though I think replacing Worthy and Pickelman might be a bigger deal than MSU fans are expecting.

    Oh please. You don't get the #6 defense in the country from 2 players - this isn't basketball.

    Pickelman didn't even play in the Outback Bowl, and he's not in any way a realistic NFL prospect. He was the beneficiary of a defensive system that put him in position to make plays. As long as Narduzzi has solid talent to fill out his 4-man rotation, we're going to get strong DT play.

    This post was edited by chairman meow on 5/26/2012 at 7:04 PM

    chairman meow

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