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Being a parent of Teenagers sucks sometimes

  • GatorBill said...

    I also have a daughter that is here despite using condoms, and birth control. So there goes that theory.

    wink_msuTime for a paternity test! Call Maury!

    Dendrobates

  • bizarreagain said...

    What I have learned is this forum is a bunch of assholes who only down others. To the few that gave advice thanks. To the pricks that are insecure and want to put down a 16 year old kid GROW THE FUCK UP. Oh and I was the 19 year old running around screwing everything. Thats why I have 3 kids dumbasses.

    Sheesh, dude, you've been around here since the beginning. If you have issues/problems, you come here for laughs--not real advice. With a post like this, you get 90% shit and 10% help. It's the ways it works. I've had questions/issues. I rolled with the shit and had a laugh, and I thanked the others. You have to know half the peeps on here were teenagers not that long ago, so would you ask your kid's friends for advice, or their older siblings? You ain't far off doing it here.

    Loose Stools

  • GatorBill said...

    And gawd dammit people, start expecting the same thing of your sons as you expect from your daughters.

    I have a two iron in my closet and the boys that date my daughter all know that I am crazy enough to use it. I will chop them little effers to pieces, pecker first, if they do anything that I deem inappropriate with my daughters. Not what my DAUGHTERS feel is inappropriate, but what I feel is inappropriate. (Im lucky that my kids feel the same way I do...for now)

    If my boy cant keep it in his pants, I will chop that lil effer right off. He is only 4 right now, but I will be ready and willing to swing that damn club when he is old enough.

    Presumably you are blowing off some steam here, but I'm going to feel bad if I read about some sick bastard cutting off his foster kids wang, or beating him to death with a two iron, or chopping him in to little pieces....like Joe Paterno Penn State..."we should have reported that" bad

    Maybe you could do us a favor and clarify your thoughts?

    This post was edited by doc_spartan on 7/11/2012 at 9:44 PM

    doc_spartan

  • doc_spartan said...

    Presumably you are blowing off some steam here, but I'm going to feel bad if I read about some sick bastard cutting off his foster kids wang, or beating him to death with a two iron, or chopping him in to little pieces....like Joe Paterno Penn State..."we should have reported that" bad

    Maybe you could do us a favor and clarify your thoughts?

    My daughter knows my line for her first dates, "Hey kid, I'm not afraid to go back to prison."

    This post was edited by Loose Stools on 7/11/2012 at 9:54 PM

    Loose Stools

  • bizarreagain said...

    No, but one of my boys had a pregnancy scare with his girlfriend (who I told him she was nuts) a year ago. The other is 19 and screwing up in college, has a job that pays 15 an hour and yet he is not motivated to get a drivers license, and now i find out he is texting one of my best friends dughters (which last week I jumped in his ass for). By the way she is only 16. Oh and the younger one who had the pregnancy scare makes the dumbest decisions ever. My sixteen year old daughter is the easiest to deal with except shes lazy and always has her hand out for money LOL.

    Hold on a sec.....

    16 is legal in Michigan. What exactly is the issue here? You should be high fiving your son.

    This post was edited by Jimmy Darmody on 7/11/2012 at 10:04 PM

    Jimmy Darmody

  • doc_spartan said...

    and abstinence enforced with threatened beatings with a nine iron works so well?

    The gals I had sex with prior to getting married were (for the most part) not "pincushions"'....and (for the most part) I'd expect the same from my boys.

    I'm going to go with information, readily available birth control, and pass on the threat of genital mutilation. My own experience, and my interpretation of the data around sex ed would tell me that this will provide a better chance of avoiding unplanned pregnancy than banking on a teenagers willingness to abstain from sex.

    I will encourage my boys to abstain from marriage until they are at least thirty, so the idea of abstaining from sex until marriage is ludicrous on its face.

    Regarding your last point....compare the population of teenagers using both condoms and the pill to the population of teenagers who's parents are relying on abstinence enforced by threat of beatings....which population do you suppose has more unplanned pregnancies?

    I do respect the way you are going about it, but to support a kid having sex under the age of 18 is completely wrong, in my opinion. (note: that is my opinion. I understand ours our different)

    Let me drop all of the sarcasm, and all of the blahblahblah and bullshit for a moment:

    I have raised my kids to respect themselves, to respect each other, and to respect others. We have taught them wrong from right, or OUR opinion of what is wrong and right.

    They are wonderful people. They will be incredible adults, and great assets to their communities. They are not perfect, and we do not expect them to be.

    I have had 14 foster kids, and what I was trying to convey in my original post about that is that I have seen a lot of screwed up kids in my house. The most screwed up of the kids were the ones that were/had been sexually active. Teenagers are generally not prepared emotionally for the crap that they have to deal with in that situation.

    I seriously have a lot of respect for the fact that you are teaching your kids how to be safe, how to be respectful, and how to be responsible. None of my comments were meant to say anything otherwise. However, you are obviously a person that cares very much about your kids, and their future. That reinforces my feelings that if you had daughters, you would look at this differently.

    I do not understand the theory of abstaining from marriage until 30, but go ahead and have sex as teenagers. You have lost me there.

    However: respect, responsibility, and the knowledge that if I screwed up I was going to get my ass kicked.....has done very well for me.

    Carry on my wayward son.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • Dp (STFU am wood)

    This post was edited by BrodieMSU on 7/11/2012 at 10:09 PM

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    BrodieMSU

  • bizarreagain said...

    No asshole she actually still dosent fuck with boys because she said they act like you. Are you 10?

    Haven't read the whole thread. My fear, I fear, is that you came to the wrong place for advice.

    That said, +1 to AM [LOL]

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    BrodieMSU

  • GatorBill said...

    I do respect the way you are going about it, but to support a kid having sex under the age of 18 is completely wrong, in my opinion. (note: that is my opinion. I understand ours our different)

    Let me drop all of the sarcasm, and all of the blahblahblah and bullshit for a moment:

    I have raised my kids to respect themselves, to respect each other, and to respect others. We have taught them wrong from right, or OUR opinion of what is wrong and right.

    They are wonderful people. They will be incredible adults, and great assets to their communities. They are not perfect, and we do not expect them to be.

    I have had 14 foster kids, and what I was trying to convey in my original post about that is that I have seen a lot of screwed up kids in my house. The most screwed up of the kids were the ones that were/had been sexually active. Teenagers are generally not prepared emotionally for the crap that they have to deal with in that situation.

    I seriously have a lot of respect for the fact that you are teaching your kids how to be safe, how to be respectful, and how to be responsible. None of my comments were meant to say anything otherwise. However, you are obviously a person that cares very much about your kids, and their future. That reinforces my feelings that if you had daughters, you would look at this differently.

    I do not understand the theory of abstaining from marriage until 30, but go ahead and have sex as teenagers. You have lost me there.

    However: respect, responsibility, and the knowledge that if I screwed up I was going to get my ass kicked.....has done very well for me.

    Carry on my wayward son.

    That makes me feel much more comfortable that you are really not the crazy bastard your post made you sound like!

    Actually I was going to mention that I admire the fact that you are willing to care for foster kids....I'm too selfish to take that on.

    As far as the marriage thing goes, my folks were married at 22, divorced by 35, my friends who married right out of college are divorced, I didn't marry until 30, and we just passed our 18th anniversary. Statistically men who marry before age 25 get divorced 40% of the time, after 30 it's 12%. Since you have daughters the stats are less than 25=36%, over 30=8%....so that's my logic there.

    In terms of when is it appropriate to start having sex....varies from person to person of course. American males on average lose their virginity at 17, in fact by 19 80% of males have had intercourse. I don't believe it's a sin, so for both my wife (a nurse) and I it simply seems like recognition of a practical reality. Thus education, respect, and condom provision is our chosen course of action. As a point of reference the average age for females to lose their virginity in the US is 16.4. Perhaps in support of your approach the distribution is different with some 20% of women holding out until the age of 21.

    Finally...I get your point....I might feel differently if I had girls....as my friend who has three daughters and no sons says to me "you only have to worry about three swinging dicks in Blackhawk county....I have to worry about all of them!"

    I wish you luck my friend.....and patience....lots and lots of patience.

    doc_spartan

  • doc_spartan said...

    That makes me feel much more comfortable that you are really not the crazy bastard your post made you sound like!

    Actually I was going to mention that I admire the fact that you are willing to care for foster kids....I'm too selfish to take that on.

    As far as the marriage thing goes, my folks were married at 22, divorced by 35, my friends who married right out of college are divorced, I didn't marry until 30, and we just passed our 18th anniversary. Statistically men who marry before age 25 get divorced 40% of the time, after 30 it's 12%. Since you have daughters the stats are less than 25=36%, over 30=8%....so that's my logic there.

    In terms of when is it appropriate to start having sex....varies from person to person of course. American males on average lose their virginity at 17, in fact by 19 80% of males have had intercourse. I don't believe it's a sin, so for both my wife (a nurse) and I it simply seems like recognition of a practical reality. Thus education, respect, and condom provision is our chosen course of action. As a point of reference the average age for females to lose their virginity in the US is 16.4. Perhaps in support of your approach the distribution is different with some 20% of women holding out until the age of 21.

    Finally...I get your point....I might feel differently if I had girls....as my friend who has three daughters and no sons says to me "you only have to worry about three swinging dicks in Blackhawk county....I have to worry about all of them!"

    I wish you luck my friend.....and patience....lots and lots of patience.

    Thanks. I appreciate it. It will take a lot of luck, and lot of patience, and more luck and more patience......

    The key is something that I think you hit on, and that is that everyone is different. I kind of fall into your stats myself. I was married just before I turned 25. It lasted a little over a year. I was married the 2nd time at 27, and 19 years later we are still very happy. (she is a pain in my keester, but there was a different maturity level at 25 than there was 27.) My practice wife, as I call her, is and always has been an incredible person. A damn outstanding human being. But we just didnt work out, and it was probably mostly me.

    Anyways, I should also clarify one other thing, the boy that I was talking about is mine, not a foster. He started out as a foster and his mother ran away, leaving him sleeping in his bed. Love that boy with all of my heart, just like he is of my blood. But he will get the same lessons that my girls did. Its just the way I am.

    There were two gf's in my past whose fathers taught me that a crazy dad is just as much birth control as anything else could be. Mr Dorin and Mr Taylor were crazy SOBs, but they taught me that their daughters were treasures to be saved, and that I would have to want to die for it, because that is what would happen. Would they really kill me? Probably not. But I wasnt going to chance it. (I know for a fact now, as an adult, that Mr Dorin is one of greatest men to walk the planet)

    Anyways, Im not crazy, but I dont mind if the boys dating my daughters think that I am!!! [LOLing Out Loud]

    Thanks again for the kind words and for understanding. Sometimes I am a littie crazier than I need to be, and my filter doesnt always catch it.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • GatorBill said...

    My advice to the OP: Go to refog.com 35ish bucks will tell you all you need to know about that daughter of yours.

    My advice to anyone in this thread.... DO NOT GO TO http://www.refog.com/

    I simply typed it in my browser to see what the heck it was and then closed out the browser.

    Now every Spyware/Malware program I have is detecting a keylogger KGB_Spy and is going ape shit.

    Sparty2QP

  • Sparty2QP said...

    My advice to anyone in this thread.... DO NOT GO TO http://www.refog.com/

    I simply typed it in my browser to see what the heck it was and then closed out the browser.

    Now every Spyware/Malware program I have is detecting a keylogger KGB_Spy and is going ape shit.

    Ive never had a problem. I can say that you have to set it as an exception in your security programs, but I have never had a problem just from visiting the site.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • bizarreagain said...

    What I have learned is this forum is a bunch of assholes who only down others. To the few that gave advice thanks. To the pricks that are insecure and want to put down a 16 year old kid GROW THE FUCK UP. Oh and I was the 19 year old running around screwing everything. Thats why I have 3 kids dumbasses.

    lighten up, nancy. they're just jokes. nobody really believes that your daughter is running around giving out bj's like it's a popsicle eating contest. she's probably just concentrating on the popular boys in school.

    AMwood

  • A.M. wood said...

    lighten up, nancy. they're just jokes. nobody really believes that your daughter is running around giving out bj's like it's a popsicle eating contest. she's probably just concentrating on the popular boys in school.

    I was thinking a few of her teachers as well. Not ALL of them though, don't want to offend the guy.

    Buffalo Spartan

  • Buffalo Spartan said...

    I was thinking a few of her teachers as well. Not ALL of them though, don't want to offend the guy.

    yeah, not all of them. mostly just the older ones.

    AMwood

  • A.M. wood said...

    yeah, not all of them. mostly just the older ones.

    One female teacher too.

    Buffalo Spartan

  • bizarreagain said...

    What I have learned is this forum is a bunch of assholes who only down others. To the few that gave advice thanks. To the pricks that are insecure and want to put down a 16 year old kid GROW THE FUCK UP. Oh and I was the 19 year old running around screwing everything. Thats why I have 3 kids dumbasses.

    -1

    http://www.silentlapse.com

    Thrillho

  • GatorBill said...

    10) Called DCS, moved to Group Home. the HS spent thousands in new cameras because of her. But hey, she never had to ask for spending money

    I LOL'd on this one. biggrin

    3 weeks ago my son totals his car while messing with the radio. 2 weeks ago he needs to go to the bank and asks to borrow my car to run to the bank a minute. I decline but his begging and pleading along with the fact the bank is only 1 mile away sways me. He proceeds to drive it all over town, intending to blow off the rest of the day at work, never answers his cell, and 3 hours later I get a phone call that he totaled it by running into the back of someone. banghead Now he has the nerve to act like I'm being a jerk because I'm still ticked at him about it.

    Hey, the old banghead is back! Apparently I haven't posted in a while.

    I like to play "bathroom detective". Corn?! I didn't eat any corn!

    Kraig

  • Jimmy Darmody said...

    Hold on a sec.....

    16 is legal in Michigan. What exactly is the issue here? You should be high fiving your son.

    Narwhal

  • Kraig said...

    I LOL'd on this one. biggrin

    3 weeks ago my son totals his car while messing with the radio. 2 weeks ago he needs to go to the bank and asks to borrow my car to run to the bank a minute. I decline but his begging and pleading along with the fact the bank is only 1 mile away sways me. He proceeds to drive it all over town, intending to blow off the rest of the day at work, never answers his cell, and 3 hours later I get a phone call that he totaled it by running into the back of someone. banghead Now he has the nerve to act like I'm being a jerk because I'm still ticked at him about it.

    Hey, the old banghead is back! Apparently I haven't posted in a while.

    We have had similar car issues with our 16 year old. She now is on a "permission to drive somewhere" basis. She drives where she needs to go, and then home. If there are changes in plans, they have to be approved ahead of time. Too much trouble out there these days, and different trouble than I used to get into.

    We are beginning to loosen the reigns a little more on her, but at 16 you cant be too careful.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • Buffalo Spartan said...

    One female teacher too.

    That doesn't count to her weekly blow job quota, though.

    The OP should be careful if she's always asking him for money. Force of habit could lead to an awkward situation.

    MiamiSpartan

  • MiamiSpartan said...

    That doesn't count to her weekly blow job quota, though.

    The OP should be careful if she's always asking him for money. Force of habit could lead to an awkward situation.

    No that's just pure fun right there.

    Buffalo Spartan