MSU Red Cedar Message Board

1. Cyclists should signal; I do. The only time I do is do to road conditions (gravel, sand, etc) which dictate using two hands. I also have a blinky on which would also serve it's purpose.
2. You should be "nervous" because you're a good driver, who is aware, just like you would be in a construction zone with a lowered speed limit, in case a worker stumble into the lane, etc.
3. More follow the rules than you would imagine. Maybe you're referring to "bikers" on a beach cruiser? or a neighborhood kid riding the wrong way? Most cyclists I see are are obedient as drivers, or more so. A PSA would reduce issues on behalf of motorists and people on bike.
4. Directed at others: I still cannot figure out why cyclists are that big of an issue( who are reducing traffic/congestion/working on health benefits among other things).

This a hundred times.
The problem with much of our society is that no one uses common sense, flexibility, and appropriate compromise. Everything must be legislated. We need to legislate that lottery winners are off food stamps. Common sense.
Bicycles that are riding faster than about 5 mph do not belong on sidewalks with very rare exception. Sidewalks are often not flat and the intersections with roads can include slopes or turns meant for pedestrians. Stopping at every sidewalk/road intersection is not practical for the bicyclist. Therefore, the bicyclist should ride on the road as a "vehicle" and use common sense as a slow moving vehicle rather than the entitlement attitude that many of you are siting. This will include riding as far to the right as possible (excepting pot holes, unsafe surfaces, and riding 2 abreast which is also allowable). Using common sense and courtesy (such as NOT riding 2 abreast even though legal when it is not sensible) would go a LONG way to making the roadways safer for bicyclists and helping develop tolerance and patience by motorists.

Did you stop and yell "ride in the road, then obey the signs, fucker!" as you drove by?

I never made any accusations. The picture is relevant to the thread.

Will any cyclist step up and explain to me why they all weave through traffic backups at lights and stop signs and refuse to stop at stop signs and red lights instead of just quipping about how all motorists break the law constantly? I'm speaking about large cities in particular.

this......in the epic struggle of Car vs. Bike.......today........Car wins!

Once again, why do you guys refuse to answer my question? In any major city, virtually every single cyclist refuses to stop at four way stops or lights in addition to weaving to the front of any line. This is not debatable, this is fact. I live in a major American city, and I witness it every single day. Why won't you just answer why this happens?

If a fellow motorist going about 20 mph doesn't follow the law and is involved in an accident, the worst that happens is that they've ran down and killed a handful of children trying to cross the street.

Because despite your insistence that it is so, not every single cyclist REFUSES to stop at four way stops or lights, or weaves in and out of traffic.

It's definitely debatable, and it's not a fact. I live in a "major American city".

Chicago

You're in no danger of being banned, I'm not Tui.

Being conservative, I'd say 80% of cyclists do not stop at red lights or four way stops in Philadelphia. I am not making this up. It's a concern for me because I've almost hit multiple cyclists at intersections. One was very close to being an incredibly severe accident. Look, I ride from time to time in the city. I'm aware of what it's like. But I don't try to weave through all the cars and blow through intersections. I've never honked at a cyclist or had road rage over a cyclist. I'm just trying to understand the behavior.

And I don't know why my question still goes unanswered.

Look, in Philly at least, it's not "some" refusing to stop, it's most. Cars do not blow through red lights and stop signs with the frequency cyclists do. Not here, at least. They just don't. And I still don't get the "well, motorists do this or that" in response to a question about cyclists.

Let's be honest for a second here.

Do some of you think the laws should be changed for cyclists so that they aren't required to stop at stop signs and red lights? Serious question.

I told you why.
It's obvious that you're trolling. Hard.

I'm not biting. Sorry.