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Big Ten - 1 overrated/1 underrated

  • Overrated: Ohio State

    They've got the talent, but I just don't see them putting it all together in year one. There will be growing pains with executing new plays and schemes, and Braxton Miller is still pretty raw. Speaking of Miller, I just don't get the hype. All I read is that he is the best or second best QB in the Big Ten. Based on what? One half of one season? If that's truly the case, that speaks a lot more to how awful the QBs are in the Big Ten. Or maybe I'm just biased because the beatdown that the Spartan defense served up to Mr. Miller is still fresh in my mind. I'm not saying OSU will suck. Their defense will keep them in games and they'll finish with a respectable record, but I don't think they'll win the Leaders division, like many have predicted.

    Underrated: Purdue

    Yeah, yeah, we hear it every year. "This is the year for Purdue!" Well, if you keep predicting it, it's gotta happen eventually, right? I think any time you have a competent coaching staff that's been together for a while, good things are bound to happen. Look no further than Dantonio and his staff. Danny Hope is quietly building a strong defense, and always has good skill position players on offense. Purdue has had poor luck in the past with injuries at key positions, especially at QB. They've got the talent; if they can stay healthy they can compete in every game. I still think Wiscy wins the Leaders division, but if everything falls Purdue's way, they've got an outside shot.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • Purdue? I don't see them being a good team with Hope as coach. He just doesn't seem to have the recruiting acumen of successful past Purdue coaches.

    High Yield

  • Overrated: Michigan
    Underrated: Michigan State

    tVargMan Prime

  • High Yield said...

    Purdue? I don't see them being a good team with Hope as coach. He just doesn't seem to have the recruiting acumen of successful past Purdue coaches.

    That's just, like, my opinion man. Why don't you post yours?

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    That's just, like, my opinion man. Why don't you post yours?

    Whose ratings are we using?

    High Yield

  • High Yield said...

    Whose ratings are we using?

    Use whatever criteria you want. I'm just going by general perception.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • Overrated- scUM (no way they go thru that schedule without 4 losses)

    Underrated- Minnesota (Kill will have those guys playing hard and Gray is poised for a breakout season)

    TPain151807

  • Overrated: Michigan. I think they will be a pretty talented team, but that's a very tough schedule.

    Underrated: Purdue. Going to have a shot at a quiet 8-4 season. Could knock off Michigan in West Lafayette.

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    Punisher99

  • Overrated: Michigan.
    Underrated: Nebraska. Look out this year, they know a little more about B1G football. Glad we have them at home.

    BigGreenHouse

  • JEK said...

    Use whatever criteria you want. I'm just going by general perception.

    +1 on Purdue as underrated. I like Hope and he's going into year 4. I'd compare them to 08-09 MSU; competitive in every game until facing the top-tier talents. They were 7-6(4-4) last year. They probably lose to ND and Wiscy again, but have a shot in games vs. UMaa, OSU, and PSU. I think they win the games they're supposed to this year and pick up another "upset" to go 8-4.

    Overrated: Michigan. They'll be solid, but I think they take a step back. I see 7 losable games on their schedule. 8-4.

    Does Nebraska count as underrated? I see them as the main competition for the legends this year, but Michigan seems to be getting all the press.

    Edit: looks like i was beat on every single one of my predictions

    This post was edited by mcinto65 on 6/23/2012 at 12:10 PM

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  • JEK said...

    Overrated: Ohio State

    They've got the talent, but I just don't see them putting it all together in year one. There will be growing pains with executing new plays and schemes, and Braxton Miller is still pretty raw. Speaking of Miller, I just don't get the hype. All I read is that he is the best or second best QB in the Big Ten. Based on what? One half of one season? If that's truly the case, that speaks a lot more to how awful the QBs are in the Big Ten. Or maybe I'm just biased because the beatdown that the Spartan defense served up to Mr. Miller is still fresh in my mind. I'm not saying OSU will suck. Their defense will keep them in games and they'll finish with a respectable record, but I don't think they'll win the Leaders division, like many have predicted.

    Underrated: Purdue

    Yeah, yeah, we hear it every year. "This is the year for Purdue!" Well, if you keep predicting it, it's gotta happen eventually, right? I think any time you have a competent coaching staff that's been together for a while, good things are bound to happen. Look no further than Dantonio and his staff. Danny Hope is quietly building a strong defense, and always has good skill position players on offense. Purdue has had poor luck in the past with injuries at key positions, especially at QB. They've got the talent; if they can stay healthy they can compete in every game. I still think Wiscy wins the Leaders division, but if everything falls Purdue's way, they've got an outside shot.

    I think Miller is going to be good. Will it be this year? He is only a soph.

    Ron_in_ATL

  • Ron_in_ATL said...

    I think Miller is going to be good. Will it be this year? He is only a soph.

    If I'm running a pro style offense I'd rather have Maxwell or Vandenberg under center. I know that Urban runs a spread, and perhaps Miller will be better utilized in that system.

    This post was edited by JEK on 6/23/2012 at 12:41 PM

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    JEK

  • JEK said...

    If I'm running a pro style offense I'd rather have Maxwell or Vandenberg under center.

    Well Ohio State doesn't run a pro style offense, I think you'll see them run the spread wing offense like they did so well with Tebow at florida.

    Jahlil Suggs

  • Purdue will be solid on defense this year. They have a great corner (Allen) and competitive defensive line. I wouldn't be shock if they were in the top two in that division.

    This post was edited by Spartan8Ball on 6/23/2012 at 12:48 PM

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  • JEK said...

    Overrated: Ohio State

    They've got the talent, but I just don't see them putting it all together in year one. There will be growing pains with executing new plays and schemes, and Braxton Miller is still pretty raw. Speaking of Miller, I just don't get the hype. All I read is that he is the best or second best QB in the Big Ten. Based on what? One half of one season? If that's truly the case, that speaks a lot more to how awful the QBs are in the Big Ten. Or maybe I'm just biased because the beatdown that the Spartan defense served up to Mr. Miller is still fresh in my mind. I'm not saying OSU will suck. Their defense will keep them in games and they'll finish with a respectable record, but I don't think they'll win the Leaders division, like many have predicted.

    Underrated: Purdue

    Yeah, yeah, we hear it every year. "This is the year for Purdue!" Well, if you keep predicting it, it's gotta happen eventually, right? I think any time you have a competent coaching staff that's been together for a while, good things are bound to happen. Look no further than Dantonio and his staff. Danny Hope is quietly building a strong defense, and always has good skill position players on offense. Purdue has had poor luck in the past with injuries at key positions, especially at QB. They've got the talent; if they can stay healthy they can compete in every game. I still think Wiscy wins the Leaders division, but if everything falls Purdue's way, they've got an outside shot.

    osu will be good, imo (yes, im a homer)...but i am a realist...

    our biggest concern is o line...we lost alot from last yr and dont have any depth, but the starters should be ok and running the spread will help them...the rb's are really good, but need room (thats where the o line comes in again)

    miller was a true frosh last yr and made true frosh mistakes, not sayin he'll win a heismann or anything this yr but his passing should improve because of the nature of the spread (short to medium passes with the option to run more)...

    our d will rival yours, the line is loaded and the lb's (shazier especially) are really fast...db's are soild...

    our schedule is favorable with neb, um, and cal all in the shoe, BUT, we do have to travel to east lansing and camp randall (for our toughest 2 games)....

    most osu fans feel 10-2 would be great in urbans 1st yr with a very possible 8-4 record...

    losses most likely; whisky and your spartans (but a w is possible in both)...

    our season will be a success if we can win 9 including um...

    a2brutus

  • In Meyer's first year at UF, he went 9-3 (5-3). I expect a similar result this year -- a respectable overall season, but multiple losses in conference.

    I'd like your guys' chances a lot more if you had a senior QB. Miller is already pretty inexperienced, and now you're asking him to learn a whole new offense. Couple that with a young offensive line, and I think OSU will struggle to score points. MSU has question marks of their own on offense, but they have experience where it really matters -- up front -- and Maxwell knows the offense like the back of his hand.

    Also, I wonder if there will be any "extra motivation" issues with OSU, knowing they can't win a conference championship.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    In Meyer's first year at UF, he went 9-3 (5-3). I expect a similar result this year -- a respectable overall season, but multiple losses in conference.

    I'd like your guys' chances a lot more if you had a senior QB. Miller is already pretty inexperienced, and now you're asking him to learn a whole new offense. Couple that with a young offensive line, and I think OSU will struggle to score points. MSU has question marks of their own on offense, but they have experience where it really matters -- up front -- and Maxwell knows the offense like the back of his hand.

    Also, I wonder if there will be any "extra motivation" issues with OSU, knowing they can't win a conference championship.

    extra motivation is very real, ur 100% correct...

    especially for the seniors....they have nothing to lose (including meyer, since its his 1st yr)...

    i think we can expect a team that will be very physical on d and very loose on o (which is good i think)...

    we are looking for revenge against ur spartans, purdue, neb and of course um....(not saying we'll get it in all 4)...

    and because there is no ccg or bowl, those 4 games mean everything to us!

    btw, good luck this yr (except when we play of course, lol)...

    hope you guys do well and represent the B1G well in a bcs game...

    a2brutus

  • Overrated: Purdue(You guys read that right)
    I've seen so many people(Whether it'd be on tRCMB or other B1G blogs) claim Purdue could/will surprise people this season. I just don't see it. Looking at their schedule, I see 5, maybe 6 wins. I wouldn't be overly surprised to see them go 0-5 on the road either. Yes, they have experience, but aside from that CB, it's not like there's a lot of talent to go along with it.

    Underrated: Iowa
    When I look at Iowa's schedule, they could very well be 5-0 headed into East Lansing. Depending on what happens in that game(The two teams have exchanged rather one-sided victories over the last two years), Iowa could be 6-0 and all of the sudden have the inside track on the Legends Division.

    DilMeister269

  • DilMeister269 said...

    Overrated: Purdue(You guys read that right)
    I've seen so many people(Whether it'd be on tRCMB or other B1G blogs) claim Purdue could/will surprise people this season. I just don't see it. Looking at their schedule, I see 5, maybe 6 wins. I wouldn't be overly surprised to see them go 0-5 on the road either. Yes, they have experience, but aside from that CB, it's not like there's a lot of talent to go along with it.

    Underrated: Iowa
    When I look at Iowa's schedule, they could very well be 5-0 headed into East Lansing. Depending on what happens in that game(The two teams have exchanged rather one-sided victories over the last two years), Iowa could be 6-0 and all of the sudden have the inside track on the Legends Division.

    They also have one of the best defensive tackle in the B10, Kawann Short.

    Offense will be their downfall. If they can score they can be good.

    This post was edited by Spartan8Ball on 6/23/2012 at 7:07 PM

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  • DilMeister269 said...

    Overrated: Purdue(You guys read that right) I've seen so many people(Whether it'd be on tRCMB or other B1G blogs) claim Purdue could/will surprise people this season. I just don't see it. Looking at their schedule, I see 5, maybe 6 wins. I wouldn't be overly surprised to see them go 0-5 on the road either. Yes, they have experience, but aside from that CB, it's not like there's a lot of talent to go along with it.

    Underrated: Iowa When I look at Iowa's schedule, they could very well be 5-0 headed into East Lansing. Depending on what happens in that game(The two teams have exchanged rather one-sided victories over the last two years), Iowa could be 6-0 and all of the sudden have the inside track on the Legends Division.

    You must be living under a rock if you've never heard of Kawann Short. Their d-line is actually supposed to be pretty good.

    The funny thing is, I was actually going to pick Iowa, but wanted to go off the board a bit as it seemed to me that Iowa was the overly-popular under-the-radar team. They always are, whenever they enter a season with no expectations. But, I think things could set up pretty well for them, and I like the fact they have an experienced and solid QB which can mask a lot of issues.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    You must be living under a rock if you've never heard of Kawann Short. Their d-line is actually supposed to be pretty good.

    The funny thing is, I was actually going to pick Iowa, but wanted to go off the board a bit as it seemed to me that Iowa was the overly-popular under-the-radar team. They always are, whenever they enter a season with no expectations. But, I think things could set up pretty well for them, and I like the fact they have an experienced and solid QB which can mask a lot of issues.

    Kiper had Short in the top 20 mock draft, but he went back to school.

    This post was edited by Spartan8Ball on 6/23/2012 at 7:13 PM

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  • Spartan8Ball said...

    They also have one of the best defensive tackle in the B10, Kawann Short.

    Yeah, he was really helpful on a defense that gave up 29.33 ppg against FBS level teams last year...sarcasm

    DilMeister269

  • DilMeister269 said...

    Yeah, he was really helpful on a defense that gave up 29.33 ppg against FBS level teams last year...sarcasm

    Purdue wasn't very good last year...hence the whole premise of the "underrated" thing.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    Purdue wasn't very good last year...hence the whole premise of the "underrated" thing.

    Again, I can't call them underrated anymore after years of this "Look out for Purdue" crap. Hell, even the OP pointed this out. I've seen too many writers/bloggers claim Purdue could surprise people for me to call them "underrated". They'll go 5-7, maybe 6-6, beat another MAC team in their bowl game, then people associated with the B1G will once again wonder if Purdue is due for a "break-out year". Enough's enough already

    DilMeister269

  • over: um, and it's not even close.

    under: PSU, if the new guy can coach and find a QB.

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