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I think there are many withholding judgment on this until we know more specifics...

If it's just sour grapes about loosing a recruit that is one thing. If tOSU is breaking rules, then it is something altogether different.

Oh c'mon, you'd be all about banging a stripper too

Ah, outside of last year's bama game, which was a crock that we were even in it, we were competitive every bowl game we played, and actually beat our SEC opponent this year.

uw blew games, through meathead's magical coaching ability. they weren't blown out.

tosu got to the big games, and managed to lose badly on the big stage, and it skewed how the entire b10 was viewed.

Let's see...the urban-to-tosu rumors began I believe in the summer. Urban denied them until after it was announced he had already accepted the job. He actually denied them for a few days after legit organizations reported it. I'd say that is a pretty big lie. Almost as big as saying he was done coaching forever due to his health.

Keep telling yourself that. It's tO$U, only a matter of time.

I have no problem with Meyer and I'll give him a fair shake. I just know he came from the SEC, where cheating is like breathing. You are an Ohio State fan, so you are going to support Meyer. Honestly, we don't have a dog in this fight, dude. This is you and Wisconsin. Yeah we're not too thrilled about losing Pittman but I think a lot of people were at least bracing for the possibility of it.

Like someone on here earlier said, Meyer was PROBABLY cutting corners and contacted kids in the dead period (not saying for certain but based on what I read). That's how staffs catch up when they are hired and they figure the slap on the wrist (if they're even caught) is worth bringing in a Top 10 class. Recruiting committed players is not illegal and Dodson took a visit here and you don't see Bielema turning us in.

A couple of things.
We don't know the specifics. Could be anything from gentleman agreements to actual NCAA violations. I am a Badger fan and think it would be stupid if Bielema was only complaining about gentleman agreements, unless those agreements were the only thing stopping Big Ten teams from committing the common violations that may take place in the SEC.

The bigger problem overall, IMO,is whether or not the hiring, and subsequent introduced practices, of Urban lead to the Big Ten doing things the wrong way. If Bielema has to be the "butt-hurt douch" to stop that from happening so be it. I realize he can do one hell of a job putting off opposing fan bases. So long as he doesn't cheat, I'll support him.

This all leads to the question of whether or not you want the Big Ten to emulate the SEC. Sure, I'd love a National Championship. But, if that means we need to sign way more than 85 kids count me out. Programs like UW and MSU should be banding together to demand the NCAA actually does something about this kind of stuff, not bitching about who has classless players or whose players are flopping vadgers.

Yeah that is what makes the most sense. A lot of rumors about Urban doing this at Florida.

MODS, whose schtick is this?

Delaney will tell him to not embarrass the conference against TCU and then come back and cry. I am still so pissed at you guys for not kicking his fat ass in the champ game that was yours.

Most people do not want to admit it but all coaches were recruiting committed players all season.

Hoke was recruiting the same PSU guys that Urban did

Dantonio was recruiting Adolphus Washington and Kyle Dodson

Lets face it guys it happens. People are just making story out of something because they lost the commits.

The fact that both your teams could not sell out the conference championship 5 hours max from home, yeah lets not guarantee sold out bowl games

Nucky?

Beilema is sweating bullets because he signed 12 recruits. This is simply cover.
Maybe his bright idea of signing senior transfers has already caused him problems