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Buying a new TV and I don't know shit about TVs

  • So my old 26 inch Sony Bravia (I think it's an LCD?) just isn't cutting it anymore. Looking at some of this Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals online and I'm a little out of my league. Found an RCA 39" Class LCD 1080p 60Hz HDTV for $299. It fits the TV set up in our living room and I really don't need to get much bigger than that. Is this a pretty good tv/deal?

    I have no clue who LED or LCD stand for let along the differences in Plasma, LED, or LCD. I also am ignorant to what 1080p and 60Hz means. A little help?

    Free Plax

  • Free Plax said...

    So my old 26 inch Sony Bravia (I think it's an LCD?) just isn't cutting it anymore. Looking at some of this Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals online and I'm a little out of my league. Found an RCA 39" Class LCD 1080p 60Hz HDTV for $299. It fits the TV set up in our living room and I really don't need to get much bigger than that. Is this a pretty good tv/deal?

    I have no clue who LED or LCD stand for let along the differences in Plasma, LED, or LCD. I also am ignorant to what 1080p and 60Hz means. A little help?

    seriously? slice vertically.

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  • I've found you get what you pay for. Spend a little more for a top brand. Samsung, Panasonic

    PortlandSpartan

  • Love my Vizio

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  • PortlandSpartan said...

    I've found you get what you pay for. Spend a little more for a top brand. Samsung, Panasonic

    Always sage advice, PortlandSpartan. Is RCA not a reputable brand? As I said, I'm hopelessly lost with the newer technology.

    I'll check on Samsung and Panasonic.

    I've also been told that the best deals can be found after Christmas. Any truth to this?

    I miss Portland. Did get to hang out/watch my buddies Red Fang and Lord Dying a few weeks ago. I'd kill for a sandwich from Bunk's right now.

    Free Plax

  • Had some friends in from out of town recently and of course hit up Bunk. It's always on the to-do list with out of towners

    PortlandSpartan

  • Oh, completely off topic, did I tell you my wife recently had some tattoo work done by London Bellman. I'm pretty sure you recommended him. Turned out great.

    I've been looking at Paul Zenk's stuff recently. Love his style for a 3/4 sleeve

    PortlandSpartan

  • Free Plax said...

    I've also been told that the best deals can be found after Christmas. Any truth to this?

    the best deals on TVs are typically between Christmas and the Super Bowl

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  • There are people here who know a lot more about this than me, but in my experience (and in my research before I bought mine) the general thought is that LED > LCD > Plasma.

    Basically (and I cannot stress that enough as I'm about to oversimplify everything), LCD is a screen of tiny little red/blue/green bulbs that are charged by electricity to produce pictures. Plasma is a panel of glass laid on top of gases that are charged to create pictures. Historically, the criticisms of plasma TVs are that they take more electricity to use, have a shorter lifespan (which is still measured in tens of thousands of hours iirc), and they have the risk of "burn in" on the screen which can damage your screen by burning an image onto it if left in one position for too long. LCD cannot do this. Also, because of the glass panel on plasma TVs they WILL reflect any lighting that is around them. Don't put them near room lights, facing tabletop lights, or windows, because they will reflect in the screen and making your viewing experience miserable.

    The contrast, depths of black coloring, and general image quality of LCD tvs are less than a plasma, but our main TV is an LCD and I have to tell you I honestly don't have any problems with it. The picture is still beautiful and HD programs look great. I'm perfectly happy with an LCD even though it's a little more expensive than plasma. Like others said, you get what you pay for. My understanding of LED is just that it's a brighter, better version of LCD. I don't know the specifics but from friends and seeing in them in stores, they look fantastic.

    From there it's just finding a price and size that works for you. I have a plasma in our basement (lack of windows and lighting) and an LCD in our living room and both are pretty good TVs. I personally prefer the LCD and would love to try an LED but just can't find a reason to spend the money when neither of ours are broken. Good luck!

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  • TheBlitzIsOn said...

    There are people here who know a lot more about this than me, but in my experience (and in my research before I bought mine) the general thought is that LED > LCD > Plasma.

    Basically (and I cannot stress that enough as I'm about to oversimplify everything), LCD is a screen of tiny little red/blue/green bulbs that are charged by electricity to produce pictures. Plasma is a panel of glass laid on top of gases that are charged to create pictures. Historically, the criticisms of plasma TVs are that they take more electricity to use, have a shorter lifespan (which is still measured in tens of thousands of hours iirc), and they have the risk of "burn in" on the screen which can damage your screen by burning an image onto it if left in one position for too long. LCD cannot do this. Also, because of the glass panel on plasma TVs they WILL reflect any lighting that is around them. Don't put them near room lights, facing tabletop lights, or windows, because they will reflect in the screen and making your viewing experience miserable.

    The contrast, depths of black coloring, and general image quality of LCD tvs are less than a plasma, but our main TV is an LCD and I have to tell you I honestly don't have any problems with it. The picture is still beautiful and HD programs look great. I'm perfectly happy with an LCD even though it's a little more expensive than plasma. Like others said, you get what you pay for. My understanding of LED is just that it's a brighter, better version of LCD. I don't know the specifics but from friends and seeing in them in stores, they look fantastic.

    From there it's just finding a price and size that works for you. I have a plasma in our basement (lack of windows and lighting) and an LCD in our living room and both are pretty good TVs. I personally prefer the LCD and would love to try an LED but just can't find a reason to spend the money when neither of ours are broken. Good luck!

    The issue of burn on plasma's is a thing of the past. I have a Pioneer and Panasonic plasma, love them both, great pictures. Pioneer is about 6-7 years old, still looks beautiful.

    If you are going LCD, spend the money, don't be cheap. LCD's can have pixelization issues when watching fast moving shows like sports.

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  • you want this Sony XBR-84X900

    MSUgoat

  • Budget?

    The best TV's are Samsung LED's and Panasonic plasma's.

    Also if you think 39" is big enough you probably need at least 46". Trust me.

    This post was edited by Buffalo Spartan on 11/23/2012 at 9:41 AM

    Buffalo Spartan

  • LCD's aren't necessarily better than plasmas. There are pros and cons to both.

    Plasmas generally are superior in terms of contrast, black levels, motion and viewing angles.
    LCD's use less power, are lighter and cooler, and have less glare and are better suited to bright rooms.

    Phil McCrackin

  • TheBlitzIsOn said...

    There are people here who know a lot more about this than me, but in my experience (and in my research before I bought mine) the general thought is that LED > LCD > Plasma.

    Basically (and I cannot stress that enough as I'm about to oversimplify everything), LCD is a screen of tiny little red/blue/green bulbs that are charged by electricity to produce pictures. Plasma is a panel of glass laid on top of gases that are charged to create pictures. Historically, the criticisms of plasma TVs are that they take more electricity to use, have a shorter lifespan (which is still measured in tens of thousands of hours iirc), and they have the risk of "burn in" on the screen which can damage your screen by burning an image onto it if left in one position for too long. LCD cannot do this. Also, because of the glass panel on plasma TVs they WILL reflect any lighting that is around them. Don't put them near room lights, facing tabletop lights, or windows, because they will reflect in the screen and making your viewing experience miserable.

    The contrast, depths of black coloring, and general image quality of LCD tvs are less than a plasma, but our main TV is an LCD and I have to tell you I honestly don't have any problems with it. The picture is still beautiful and HD programs look great. I'm perfectly happy with an LCD even though it's a little more expensive than plasma. Like others said, you get what you pay for. My understanding of LED is just that it's a brighter, better version of LCD. I don't know the specifics but from friends and seeing in them in stores, they look fantastic.

    From there it's just finding a price and size that works for you. I have a plasma in our basement (lack of windows and lighting) and an LCD in our living room and both are pretty good TVs. I personally prefer the LCD and would love to try an LED but just can't find a reason to spend the money when neither of ours are broken. Good luck!

    You are a bit off on LCD. It's not tiny little bulbs that change color. It starts with a white light source and the LCD panel filters the light to create colors. The only difference between LED and LCD is the white lights source (LED is LCD BTW). A normal LCD has a fluorescent light while LED has rows of LEDs (some tv's only have them on the edge, and others have full LED backlights). The pluses with LEDs are they have lower power consumption and with full LED tv's they can lower the output of each LED to help with black levels.

    You are missing a big plus with plasma. Plasma response times are in nanoseconds, while LCD tv's are in microseconds. Doesn't matter to many, but a big issue with some.

    You are also missing negative with LCD's. While plasma can have burn in (although it takes a day or more of a static image), LCD's can have stuck pixels. This is when a pixel no longer changes state. Not terrible and not always noticeable, but can be an issue.

    scott91575

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    LCD's aren't necessarily better than plasmas. There are pros and cons to both.

    Plasmas generally are superior in terms of contrast, black levels, motion and viewing angles. LCD's use less power, are lighter and cooler, and have less glare and are better suited to bright rooms.

    This is a fairly succinct description of the pros and cons.

    Of course each tv is different, and these should not be considered an absolute. A really good LCD tv will have better black levels than a cheap plasma, and a good plasma can use less power or be lighter than a cheap LCD.

    scott91575

  • The power consumption difference in current plasma vs. LCD TVs is almost completely negligible in practical terms. If you can drop the money required for a new plasma, you can afford a monthly electric bill that might increase by a couple bucks at most. That's especially true when you consider that LCDs are typically more expensive than plasmas when you're comparing similar models.

    The only reason I would purchase an LCD over a plasma (and plasmas tend to provide much more bang for your buck) is if it was going to be placed in a bright room where the reflections off the screen would be an issue.

    This post was edited by Omar Comin19758 on 11/23/2012 at 11:56 AM

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  • The thing that drives me nuts about any TV is the reflection in the screen. I went with a Sony LED because it seemed to be best at not working as a mirror of my living room.
    The Samsung LCD was a gorgeous picture but the glossy screen would've reflected everything back at me. I'm certain I would've eventually tossed a potted plant at it.

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • Samsung or Panasonic plasma or LED. Don'y buy an LCD, old tech.

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    rob

  • Plasma gets the best picture IMO, but only if its a darker room, if there are a lot of windows get an LED, plasmas reflect light.

    More expensive is not necessarily better, plasma is cheaper because its been around for a while longer and is a more mature manufactured product.

    LED is a great picture too and doesn't reflect as bad as plasma so it's better for a brighter room, probably a brighter picture than anything. LED will be more expensive, make sure to get at least a 120 hz refresh rate. Plasmas have 600 hz.

    Plasma if its a dark entertainment room or basement, LED if its a lighter room, get at least 46".

    The 60 hz is a red flag, don't buy it if you intend to watch sports or action movies. Also LCD is inferior to LED although it's the same basic technology.

    Me? I love my 50" plasma, I have yet to see an LED with as good of a picture.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Johnny2x2x on 11/23/2012 at 12:16 PM

    Johnny2x2x

  • Don't forget to spring for the extended warranty and undercoating.

    Final Countdown

  • If you watch football you might want 120Hz which is the refresh rate. 1080p is as good as it gets. Since you don't buy a TV every day may as well spend an extra $20 and get those.

    Plasmas have better contrast if you enjoy a power sucking space heater in the summer

    You should be able to get 42" 1080p 120Mhz for $430 or so if you wait long enough i.e use slickdeals

    Foxbat

  • Foxbat said...

    Plasmas have better contrast if you enjoy a power sucking space heater in the summer.

    Not at all true on any new decent plasma.

    Buffalo Spartan

  • Just bought a 39" insignia (best buy brand) that is 1080p 120 hz, that freq is all you need, and I was pleasantly surprised. It was so good that I replaced the 35" Sony I had in my bedroom with it and instead used that in my gym.

    Imisspancheros

  • What ever you get, remember the picture depends upon input. HDMI connections are a must. And when you get cables, one word Monoprice. If you do games, go for more HDMI connections, you won't regret it.

    Don't know what brand you are considering but if you have access to Panasonic supplier purchases, they have some deals now that include free shipping & an included blu ray player.

    If all you want is a basic TV, you should be able to find a 32" for $200 or less.

    Tree Rat