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One word to consider: context.

I'd put it up there with the tuck rule

The tuck was a fumble, the no catch was a catch

no disputing that

i know it doesnt really matter, but i thought the pylon touchdown by brandon minor was one of the worst ever. thankfully, we pounded the weasels into the ground after that bullshit

Yeah I caught that like 3 seconds after I posted it. You were a nanosecond ahead of me.

Jim Joyce and the perfect game? Are you serious? That was the worst call of all time because of what it meant historically, and because it wasnt particularly close. That was out 27 of only the 21st perfect game of all time. He ruined Gallaragas game of a lifetime. This ruined nothing. It was just poor judgment especially with the benefit of replay, which anyone that watches MSU hoops should not be shocked by. It's been going on all year across the board. But to say its even comparable to Joyces call is asinine.

I agree with you. This call was horrendous especially with looking at the replay. But, being a minor league umpire myself I know that Joyce got that wrong because he second guessed himself. The ball clearly beat the runner and Gallaragas foot twisted on the bag making it look funny. He was about ready to call the guy out and bailed at the last second. The significance of the call is what makes it so bad. The judgment on the flagrant was worse. Total garbage. I just don't think they are comparable bad calls. One is poor judgement with the chance to get it right. The other blew a chance at history in a split second moment that people will remember for a lot longer.

There shouldn't even have been a foul called on the play, out of bounds to Baylor.

Signed,
Aaron Craft

its a bad call, but calls have to be put in context. and given the context, it wasnt that bad.
IF it had been a flagrant 2 and they had ejected Acy, you mightve had an argument

They may as well put dresses on the players. What a bullshit rule and chicken shit call.

After looking at the replay, Acy drives his left shoulder into the back of the breakaway player. Yeah, he makes a play on the ball, but he also drives his shoulder into the other players back. "Flagrant 1" has taken the place of "intentional foul", only because of verbage. The NCAA felt since they could not determine intent without being mind readers, they simply changed the name. Having said that, from the rule book, here is the definition of "intentional foul" (now, Flagrant 1):
An intentional foul shall be a personal foul that, on the basis of the officials observation of the act, may be purposeful or reactionary and is not based solely on the severity of the act. Examples include, but are not limited to:
1. Causing excessive, non-flagrant contact with an opponent while playing the ball;
2.......5

This is a direct quote from the rule book found here:
http://www.wbca.org/includes/media/docs/2010-11WBBPlayRulesHandbook.pdf
Look at the bottom of page 71.

Having read this, I believe the call is correct and follows #1 listed above. I think it was excessive and non-flagrant, and deserving of the "flagrant 1" that was called.