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Honestly though, why do we talk about Michigan basketball so much? Do UNC fans obsess over NC State? Does Syracuse obsess over Boston College? Does Kentucky obsess over Louisville? Does Duke obsess over Wake Forest?

No, because they have bigger fish to fry than their in-state little brother programs. So, why do we obsess over Michigan, exactly?

Maybe the put that Akunne sp? fellow at 1, Burke 2, Timmy 3, GR 4, Morgan.

They did play Novak at 4.

lol I forgot I had that on there, those are MD's daughters/my future wives.

Checked Rivals, 247, Scout and ESPN rankings. There seems to be quite a concensus on most of the top 100 players coming into B1G next year.

Harris MSU 25,11, 12,11
Robinson UM 11, 28, 29, 18
Dekker Wisc 13, 30,30, 17
Ferrell IU 19,34, 32, 24
McGary UM 30,21, 21, 27
Hollowell IU 41, 27, 40, 42
Perea IU 43, 33, 49, 71
Woodbury Iowa 50, 51, 45, 39
Hammons Pur 77, 70, 73 81
Stauskas UM 71, 84, 81, 76
Costello MSU 83,92,94,86
Johnson Pur 94, 80, 82, 92
Davis Pur 96, 99,95,87
Kaminski MSU 113, 98,88, 85
Gesell Iowa 100, 96,87,75
Valentine MSU 81, UR, 92, 97
Simpson Pur 112 100, UR, UR

Thats everyone that was rated by at least 2 of the services list. 17 total. No OSU recruits. Interesting. Listed them in order based on what would look like an overall concensus ranking of the 4 services. IU probably best class with MSU, UM and Pur all close behind. Purdue does not have a top 50 player though. Lots of new great talent coming into the league next year.

Like I said, could be 2010-2011 MSU all over again offensively unless THJ improves his handles or they somehow find a stretch 4. A guy like Burke can't get into the lane and control a game with 2 true bigs on the floor. They need a second threat from the perimeter or teams will pack the lane and make Burke force tough shots.

That is because OSU has no commitments.

The scum administration took a very hands off approach to the men's hoop program during and after their slap on the wrist from the NCAA. They put upgrades to Chrisler on hold and refused to put any money into their facilities. Beilein finally landed a basketball practice facility and major upgrades were made to the arena. Combine a litte on court success with the terribly needed facilities low and behold, they are a player again in the recruiting game. Unfortunately, they are a very recognized brand name on the national level.

I hate them to no end, but they very much are building things in the right direction. There are a lot of parallels to our football program. They still have a long way to go and I know it will only keep Izzo's drive for his 2nd NC as strong as ever.

According to those in the know, Little dog and McJesus are one and done, Staskos will be the best shooter in the B10 the second he arrives, Burke and Timmy will be the best backcourt in the nation, and this is a FF team next year. Not a darkhorse, not a contender. FF. They don't recruit players who might not work out. Every one of those guys is an instant contributor, and probably a star player year one. Their coach is a proven winner, the rest of the staff is outstanding.

Meanwhile, MSU has an overrated class coming in, Izzo is "losing ground", Draymond's loss will be too much to overcome, and we will be lucky to finish in the top 5...in the B10.

First round exit >>>>> Final 4? Because of 3 freshmen? Burke and Hardaway will be tough next year. Morgan is the definition of 7th man, but he is not horrible. Can anybody tell me who else on that current roster will be an impact player? That is a no. So, little dog comes in and plays well at the 3, McJesus is (and this is being VERY generous) a 9pt 7rbd guy. That gives you a lineup of McJesus/Morgan/Littledog/Hardaway/Burke. That is a well defined lineup. Every player can play their natural position, they have good size, good athleticism. Sounds good, on paper. Then you realize something. They have won 1 tournament game. Their coach has NEVER proven himself as a tournament ready guy. EVER! They have no bench. They have no backup PG...SG...SF...Their presumed success for 12/13 is based on littledog having a Carmelo Anthony type freshman season.

FTR, the reason we obsess is because the media and the idiot fanbase has been slamming this scenario in our faces for months now. When you try to offer another point of view, they laugh it off like they are a dynasty. Appling/Harris(Valentine)/Dawson/Costello(Kaminski)/Paynix. With experience and depth behind them, and one of the best coaches AND staffs in the country over the last 15 years. They have a bunch of guys who shit the bed, 3 freshmen, and a coach who has NEVER had a good tournament team. Yet THEY are the ones talking about their upcoming glorious season?

Gary was always 25 for rivals, he just didn't move up at all after his season as the best player in a loaded Indiana high school class. He's still 11 for scout and ESPN. Rivals is always a bit weird. for perspective the first underclassman to win Mr. Basketball in Illinois and the 4th underclassmen to ever win the Gatorade NPOY, Jabari Parker, is ranked number 2

Ah, f**k that s**t. I have 9 guys who better.

Signed,

U. Meyer.