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Ninth slowest out of 10? So he's the second fastest?
This post was edited by Lawre167 17 months ago
Did Bell run his 40's yet? Or has Will tested on bench?
Today was lineman, tight ends, and specialists.
Both of those things will happen tomorrow, along with JA5's weigh-in.
I think people put too much weight into 40 times. They don't mean success or failure at the next level or at the draft.
Doug Martin ran a 4.57 and Alfred Morris a 4.64 at last years combine, those would be slow compared to other RB 40 times at last years combine. I think they both turned out just fine.
40 times are useless for most positions but probably most useful for DB, WR and speed-based RBs.
10-yard splits are far more important.
All of those times would be far more useful if they were done in pads.
Sims at 4.75 and 262 lbs, according to NFL.com. 8th out of 15. Just fine compared to media favorite Eifert from ND running a 4.68 at 250 lbs.
Doesn't matter unless you want your RB to be strong enough to push the bleachers out of the way for the girls volleyball regional championships.
Dion Caputi @nfldraftupdate
#Rice's Vance McDonald, #SDSt's Gavin Escobar, and #MSU's Dion Sims helped their cause with strong workouts, to me. All are nice receivers.
Alfred Morris, drafted in the 6th Rd...
Behold the walls of Sparta: 10000 men and every one a brick.
I personally think they should make them run the 40 yard dash in full equipment.
So? Started for the Redskins and had a great year.
Yes he did. But the point of being drafted higher is you earn more money. Morris is a ridiculous bargain for the Redskins because of his rookie 6th Round contract right now. Those are years and damage done to his body he won't get back. I believe that is the point Corner Blitz is trying to make.
However, the most important thing is that he is successful, like he has been.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
I get the point of the post, my point is a RB who runs a 4.64 40 kicked some ass in the NFL, yet everyone is going nuts a TE who ran a 4.73 ruined his career by leaving early.
The 40 times at the combine don't mean as much as people here make it out to be.
So? His point is that 40yrd dashes don't matter much when it comes to NFL success. As far as being drafted, it's hard to say how many teams actually bump you up after a good 40 if any do*.
*Not counting Al Davis era Raiders.
They do and they don't. In terms of draft status, they sure as hell do.
In terms of career, you are absolutely right.
Let me ask you if you think Sims made the right decision in leaving early? I will tell you I think he could have helped himself if he stayed another year, but I don't think he effed up his career.
Lets be honest
He left early to support his kid. Simple as that. Good for him to be able to support his family.
If he doesn't have a kid, he comes back
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CaliSpartan0606 17 months ago
I agree with you, I don't think he screwed up by leaving early, but I think he could have helped himself by staying.
Sims didn't have a real complete stretch of playing at MSU between injuries and his computer fiasco, really didn't make an impression as a stud TE for a long stretch. I do think he is a great talent, that was under utilized last year in that putrid offense we ran.
Another year at MSU could have possibly helped him, but who knows.
I went back and looked at some 40 times for TE's who play in the NFL drafted over the last couple seasons. Tough to nail down times for drafted players at TE, Kyle Rudolph didn't run the 40 at the 2011 combine for example.
Lance Kendricks from Wisconsin ran a 4.75 40 at the 2011 combine, he was drafted in the 2nd round by the Rams in 2011. I guess that 40 time didn't kill his draft stock.
hey there's no room for logic on this board!
I had a statistics class that required me to do an open topic paper. Because I knew the info would be readily available, I did an analysis of the correlation between combine 40 times and future NFL success for WRs. Success was defined by catches per year for WRs that had at least 3 years in the league. Turns out, there was virtually no correlation. I guess the ability to catch the ball is more important than how fast they can go.
The 40 yard dash time isn't the best barometer though. How often does an NFL player run shirtless with no pads on and in a straight line for 40 yards during a game? Watch the game film and scouts know what Dion is capable of. Game speed is much more important than some straight line speed drill. Dion will be just fine.
The offense was so bad and he was so injury prone that the scouts really dont know what he's capable of.
Enough 40-yd-time talk. What's up with this^^^? Does this Mayock have credibility?
Count me among those who thought Deon was one of the top TE's entering the draft - (size, athleticism, hands, etc.). And when I say "top", I mean number 1, 2, or 3. This looks like he's not in top 5, perhaps not in top 7. At least according to Mayock.
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I think it's pretty cool. You can sort combine stats by position, day and event.
This post was edited by AWESOMO 4000215 17 months ago
"No one has ever drowned in sweat." - Lou Holtz
They say That kid from WVU ran a 4.25 40
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