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I can't believe people are actually freaking out over the first loss. Come on...even the best teams ever will lose more than 50 games.
Last year the Tigers busted out of the first week to a 5-1 record against at that time perceived to be contenders the Red Sox and Rays....They were a .500 team by the end of April. It's baseball people, it's a marathon! About 1% of the season has been played.
This is like people calling for Dantonio's head when MSU is tied 7-7 after the first 7 minutes of their first game...well I guess people are completely bonkers in here and probably do call for Dantonio's head after the first 7 minutes of a game. Continue your normal and predictable freak outs.
They've tried one guy so far...it took the Giants about 4/5 guys to settle on Romo, and they really didn't do that until August.
I don't think he ever was. He got the first shot because of his performance in the playoffs last year, and the fact that the Twins and Yankees employ a lot of left handed hitters.
The Giants were forced to because an injury. The Tigers are choosing to because they relied on a minor leaguer to be ready.
Tiger fans should be ready for seeing more 9th inning blown saves this year than they have in a long time. That's all I'm saying.
They won't hesitate to make a move if it were to continue. By the post season, there will be a solid closer in Detroit whether it's internally or through trade. There are quite a few good closers on bad teams and it's usually one of the first pieces they move in that case.
It's actually been 1.23%! They can't make this ground up!
This post was edited by AirItOutMaxwell 12 months ago
An injury after 2 games....The Giants were relying on guys who had never closed before, who were unprepared to even get a shot to close
The guys the Giants tried:
Sergio Casilla: 12 Saves in 8 MLB previous seasons
Jeremy Affeldt: 26 Saves in 10 previous seasons. Royals tried to make a him a closer in 2004, with blah results...13 of his 26 saves came in that season.
Clay Hensley: 7 saves in 5 previous seasons.
Javier Lopes: 5 saves in 9 previous seasons.
Sergio Romo: 3 saves in 4 previous seasons
At least the Tigers potential closers at least know where they stand, and they have guys who have done it before on their roster already. Would you have felt more comfortable with Al Al, Marte, Downs or Villireal closing yesterday...because they have less experience than Coke. Those are the type of guys the GIants were forced to try. If it becomes a problem with the young guys, they can at least turn to Benoit or Dotel. The Giants didn't have that luxrey.
Tigers blew 16 saves last year, only saved 71%...that's really low.
Besides Dotel closing for a few years with blah results (109 saves, 48 blown saves, 69%) the Tigers don't have any one who has closed.
Benoit - 13 saves in 11 seasons
Coke - 7 saves in 5 seasons
No one else on their roster has even 1 save.
Where are the guys who have done it before?
You are discounting Dotel's 100+ saves. That's not an easy task to accomplishment. Only 11 active pitchers have more than 109. Only 5 more active pitchers have finished more games than Dotel.
Yes, he has 69% career save %, but in his seasons as a full time closer where he earned most of those saves
58 of his 109 saves came in those seasons. 15 of his blown saves also came in those 2 seasons.
Dotel was traded to close for contenders in both of those seasons.
Granted he's a better set up man than closer (and that's why the Tigers are going to wait till they absolutly need to move he...or Benoit into the roll)...but compared to what SF had (as I was doing), he's far away more experienced than anyone the Giants tried.
There isn't much of a track record to think Phil Coke can be close to consistent as a closer. He was awful much of last year, only to pitch well in the playoffs against the Yankees. (Who at that time was a team not hitting anyone except Valverde)
Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.
In 2010, Dotel was the closer for Pittsburgh and was traded at the deadline to LAD for a minor leaguer and another reliever. He saved 1 game for the Dodgers then was traded to Colorado in Sept for a player to be named later. He didn't have a save for the Rockies.
In 2010, what contender traded for Dotel to close for them?
In 2004 he was traded from Houston to Oakland and did have 22 saves for them.
So you want to rely on a journeyman hasn't been able to stay on the same team for more than 2 years in a row since 2004, who has a total of 27 saves over the past 5 years (22 of them in 1 year) with 16 blown saves in that same timeframe? No thanks.
Good call. I really like him getting signed to a minor league contract. Shows the Tigers realize they need a closer, not a committee.
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