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A Dance With Dragons

  • @Spartan MD

    I don't think we ever read about Bran seeing Coldhand's features. His face is always obscured by a scarf, I think.

    I tend to think that Benjen=Coldhands, but I also think its not very relevant to main plot anyway.

    I sincerely hope Bran is not the champion of the 'Other'. Poor kid is already paralyzed from the waist down and doomed to live his life as a tree.

    What creeps me out is Mel's prophecy about Patchface. She says she sees him in her fires with skulls around him. Patchface is one creepy character. I have a feeling he is going to fuck shit up before the end. Maybe ghe is the chamion of the 'Other'.

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  • SpartanGrad99 said... (original post)

    @Spartan MD

    I don't think we ever read about Bran seeing Coldhand's features. His face is always obscured by a scarf, I think.

    I tend to think that Benjen=Coldhands, but I also think its not very relevant to main plot anyway.

    I sincerely hope Bran is not the champion of the 'Other'. Poor kid is already paralyzed from the waist down and doomed to live his life as a tree.

    What creeps me out is Mel's prophecy about Patchface. She says she sees him in her fires with skulls around him. Patchface is one creepy character. I have a feeling he is going to fuck shit up before the end. Maybe ghe is the chamion of the 'Other'.

    What also creeped me out was when Val called Stannis' daughter "the dead girl" re: Grayscale (leprosy-ish?) I think Patchface may be someone that's of very noble lineage . . . . or this could all be an act and he's just a pyscho serial killer.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    What also creeped me out was when Val called Stannis' daughter "the dead girl" re: Grayscale (leprosy-ish?) I think Patchface may be someone that's of very noble lineage . . . . or this could all be an act and he's just a pyscho serial killer.

    Yup, that is creepy. That ties into my Patchface theory too. There are some striking parallels re:Grayscale

    Connington contracts Grayscale when he pulls Tyrion out of the river.

    Shireen contracted Grayscale as a toddler. Patchface was shipwrecked and pulled from the sea. He is the constant companion of Shireen. I think she contracted Greyscale from him at some point. The disease is dormant in her now, but I bets it waiting to rear its head, from what Val says.

    I am telling you, Patchface is one messed up dude. He is a harbinger of doom. Go back and read some of the chapters he makes appearances in, the song lyrics he sings are disturbing, prophetic I think. He reminds me of the Trashcan Man from The Stand. He is going to bring the A-Bomb, it is known.

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  • SpartanGrad99 said... (original post)

    Yup, that is creepy. That ties into my Patchface theory too. There are some striking parallels re:Grayscale

    Connington contracts Grayscale when he pulls Tyrion out of the river.

    Shireen contracted Grayscale as a toddler. Patchface was shipwrecked and pulled from the sea. He is the constant companion of Shireen. I think she contracted Greyscale from him at some point. The disease is dormant in her now, but I bets it waiting to rear its head, from what Val says.

    I am telling you, Patchface is one messed up dude. He is a harbinger of doom. Go back and read some of the chapters he makes appearances in, the song lyrics he sings are disturbing, prophetic I think. He reminds me of the Trashcan Man from The Stand. He is going to bring the A-Bomb, it is known.

    Kind of funny, but I think the TV show will help us a lot. I'm very curious to see how they do Patch-face up. If the dude ends up looking like Pennywise . . . watch-out.

    Also, I didn't realize that it was Varys in AGOT that was plotting with Illyrio until I saw the show. In the book, it was hard for me to tell who Arya was listening to.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

  • Just got done with all the books now I guess I wait for five years like every one else for the next one. I really don't think stannis is dead Ramsey is just trying to get jon away from the wall.

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  • SpartanRocky said... (original post)

    You think he'll end up being the champion of "the Other" that Mel is afraid to talk about?

    I think he could be, or that he could end up assisting him. I don't think he really understands the consequence of his own actions at this point. I could see him inadvertantly getting caught up in some pretty bad stuff. He also doesn't seem like the most thoughtful person out there. The way he treats Jojen and Hodor kind of shows that he puts himself above others. I like his character a lot though, so I hope I'm wrong.

  • RE: Patchface

    I think he's connected to the Other somehow, more specifically to the Drowned God (who the Red Priest on Victarion's ship claims is but a thrall to the Great Other). His past of basically drowning, coming back and being "mad" is very reminiscent of that religion. His various ramblings are also fairly prophetic (he predicted the Red Wedding in SoS). Some of the things he says in this book are very disturbing in that light.

  • Just finished with ADWD, and I am really pissed. Yes the book was great and so much better than AFWC, but there are so many unresolved threads that it is madding. I know that he says "this time it is only going to be two years between books", but I have heard that lie twice before, so I am not getting my hopes up. I guess we will get some of our answers in 2017. Asshole.

  • Misterray

    Okay, I laughed.

    +1 for you.

    Try-----*The Name of the Wind* and the sequel *The Wise Man's Fear* to tide you over....

    And while you are waiting for the final book of that trilogy, try *The Warded Man* and the sequel *Desert Spear* (then you can wait for the third book of THAT trilogy)

    I'm trying to toughen you up, son!

    And while you wait for all those books, read the Lions of Al Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay. No sequel, just a great book. An amazing book with the one single flaw being a sword and shield combat trick that would simply never ever ever work. (and I can live with that)

    AND while you are at it, go for Tuf Voyaging (by Martin--no sequels), Fevre Dream (by Martin -also no sequels), and The Winter King (and it's two sequels which finish the story. An excellent Arthur retelling by Bernard Cornwell of Sharpe fame)

    Get busy!

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