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Eric Green of Va. Tech wins the award this year. He played on an 4-14 last place team. Anyone else see an issue with that?
12177 Post before moving here. 10/29/11 will live forever in our hearts (plus 50 votes in the last 3 hours)
I see more of an issue with you thinking this somehow forever tarnishes the award.
"Put your mother in a straight-jacket you punk ass white boy." ~ Mike Tyson
That's why it's not called the Team Of The Year Award.
"We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo
It's not called the most valuable player, it's called player of the year. He was the best player this year in the ACC.
Tom Crean already on the ACC teleconference....
Agreed, BUT, team suscess is usually factored in. Larkin should have won it hands down IMO.
This post was edited by tJYD 13 months ago
The award will forever be tarnished.
In other news, tJYD has decided to secede from tRCMB and form his own message board in the latest round of message board realignment.
This post was edited by Jandy 13 months ago
laconophilia is everywhere...
You're wrong. Why should the TEAM play in a factor of the PLAYER of the year?
"If you're worried about Wolverine fans, just move to Pasadena. You'll never have to deal with 'em."
Good players can be on bad teams.
This is the same logic people use to argue that Kobe is better than LeBron, I don't understand it.
Green received 38 of the 76 votes cast. Miami’s Shane Larkin was second with 23 votes and Duke’s Mason Plumlee was third with 12 votes.
The nation’s leading scorer, Green has scored in double figures in every game this season and leads the ACC in scoring in both overall games and conference games. He is averaging 25.4 points per game and is shooting 48.2 percent from the field. He also leads the ACC in minutes played (36.4 mpg).
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I said it is usually a factor. Some voters think the best player on the best team is automatically POY. Some think the team has to be suscessful period. Not many think putting up 35 a game on the worst team is POY worthy. Not saying Green put up those numbers, but putting up huge numbers on a crappy team usually is ignored for POY voting.
Really? Larkin? Dude averaged 13.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, and 4.4 apg. I think he might be the best player on the team that won the conference, but I don't think he's the best player in the conference.
Erick Green averaged 25.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, and 3.9 apg. He shot 48%, 39% from 3, and 81.5% from the free throw line. It's not like he was out there throwing up bricks every game just so he could score a bunch
Just because his team sucked doesn't mean he wasn't the best player in the conference. I'm actually glad he won the award. He's not talked about nearly enough nationally.
Maybe Plumlee could complain with his 17.2 ppg and 10.3 rpg (one of only two players in the conference to average a double-double) Joe Harris from Virginia might have an argument as well. I'd probably vote for either of them over Larkin.
This post was edited by Goud21 13 months ago
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I’m a keep on chillin’,
refillin’ and flyin’ high
What was Miami picked to finish? 7th, 8th? His play greatly helped Miami to win their first ever ACC regular season title, outright to boot.
Last year, I think Sullinger had better number then Day Day but Day Days intangibles and MSU winning the Big Ten after being picked 5th by some helped his cause to win POY and NABC POY over Davis.
The problem with Miami is you could make an argument that Kenny Kadji and Durand Scott were just as important for their team's success.
What it really comes down to is how the voters view the award. Don't get me wrong, I think Larkin had a hell of a year and if he had won the award, I wouldn't have complained at all. I'm just saying it's not the world's biggest travesty ever that Green won the award.
I see both sides of the argument
Holy shit, those are impressive numbers.
Green - POY
Larkin - MVP
It's pretty simple.
I'm surprised Duke didn't petition and market for Ryan Kelly for ACC POY.
In 1956, Paul Hornung won the Heisman Trophy while playing for 2-8 Notre Dame. Sad to see the award forever tarnished after that.
After my initial outrage at this injustice, I have come to terms with it. It wasn't easy but I am now at peace.
Alex Rodriguez won MVP in baseball on a last place Rangers team
Its all crap anyway
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You are an inspiration to us all. Except tjyd.
"No, he has decided to sign a 3 year deal with us."
Haters gonna hate!
But you raise an interesting point. Is tjyd really finalfouru? Inquiring minds want to know.
Inquiring minds want to know, and so do I.
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