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First off, UW deserves a lot of credit for beating both Indiana and Michigan, but the fact that they only have to play each team once plus miss having to play at Mackey Arena is an absolute joke. MSU, OSU, IU, and UM all play a true round robin of games against each other. Wisconsin misses two games and misses one of the toughest road games of the non-contenders. They only have one game left (@ MSU) where they will be an underdog and I don't expect them to lose any of the others. Unless MSU wins out, we will get to listen to how Wisconsin won the toughest league title in conference history.
Deserves an asterisk.
MSU misses OSU and Wisky in football next year ... will they deserve an asterisk if they play in the B1G Title Game?
Alright, just so I know, what teams winning the big 10 won't you complain about?
They have some tough games left. @ Minnesota is tough enough as the Spartans found out and with that being a rivalry game it won't be easy. They also come to east lansing and have a home game vs Ohio State. They should win the rest but anything can happen. Getting UM only at home was nice but not playing IU in Madison would have been a disadvantage on paper when the year started. At this point I think 13-5 might be good enough to get a share with 14-4 seeming like a solid bet.
There are 9 games left between these teams so that is 9 losses to spread out before you even begin to factor in potential losses to other teams. Its going to be a wild end to the year. Should be a lot more clear after another weeks worth of games.
Might as well get used to unbalanced schedules and a "devalued" regular season title. Not gonna get better with more teams joining the league.
"Put your mother in a straight-jacket you punk ass white boy." ~ Mike Tyson
I'll only complain about Wisconsin. They are the fifth best team in the conference and are as of this moment a clear favorite to win the outright title. They'd be a huge underdog in Ann Arbor (don't have to play there); they'd be an underdog at home against IU (don't play that one); they'd be a pick'em at Mackey (don't have to play that one). I really liked that the contenders all played a round robin this year but good 'ole Wisconsin snuck in and took advantage of the scheduling.
If UM had won they would've likely been 14-4 at worst with only three difficult games left (@ MSU, MSU, IU).
Wisconsin still has to come to East Lansing and their next two games (@ Minnesota, OSU) are both going to be tough. We need to take care of them in EL and hope someone else knocks them off, which I think is pretty likely.
14-4 should get us a virtual locked share of the B10 Title. Just take care of the weaker road teams and IU, UM and Wisky at home.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Punisher99 14 months ago
As has been shown, MSU seems to repeatedly have the toughest Big Ten schedule. So, my question is, does Izzo have something to do with this? Is there any way to pull strings to get MSU with a very tough schedule?
I know. This season just seems to be special with how good everybody is. A regular season title really would have meant something for any of the top 4 teams who all play each other twice.
Michigan State will win out so your point is mute, moran.
Wisky is solid but not that good. They will lose at least two more guaranteed and finish either one or two games back from the conference champ.
This post was edited by The_Dude 14 months ago
The fact that they're even in position to win the league with the roster they have and Gasser out for the year is incredible
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
Wisconsin is capable of losing any of their remaining games. They don't really shoot the ball all that well, and they are horrible at the charity stripe. Their style of play will keep them in most games though, but sooner or later their above mentioned faults will cost them.
You honestly believe that Wisconsin is going to win the conference title with no better than 4 losses?
You're whining that they don't play at Mackey? Purdue is like the 7th best team in the league.
The Big Ten is extremely tough from top to bottom this year. Whoever wins the league will have earned it. Yes, some years some teams have it slightly easier than others. It happens. Wisky will have beaten IU on the road and Michigan. If they win the title, they'll have earned it.
That said...it's not gonna happen. They will falter.
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You're giving Purdue too much credit by saying they're the 7th best team in the league
This. At MSU and at Minny are very likely losses for Wisky. I also think its very likely they lose one of OSU, Purdue, or at NW.
I could have left that part out. Not trying to be a big whiner here, but I just hope people realize the impact the scheduling is having. MSU, IU, UM, OSU all got four of the toughest schedules. UW got the easiest. Those are your five contenders.
Considering they're currently in 7th place, I'd say my comment was accurate.
I know that MSU plays Penn State once and it pisses me off.
With a schedule like this?
Feb 14 @ #18 MINN
Feb 17 vs #10 OSU
Feb 20 @ NW
Feb 26 vs NEB
Mar 2 vs PUR
Mar 7 @ #12 MSU
Mar 10 @ PSU
I think you're jumping the gun here, winning at the Barn isn't easy, Minny is a good squad. I don't see the Badgers beating OSU either. Northwestern knocked off Illinois and Minnesota, so that could be a trap game. Nebraska and Penn State are the only two teams I can see as gimmes here. I don't think Wisconsin will win at the Breslin, so that's three losses, two wins, and two maybes. Even if they get both maybes you have a 4-3 finish. I really don't think 6 losses will be enough to win the B1G.
If MSU can take care of business at home, win today and beat Nebraska at Lincoln, I think that will be enough. State will be at 4 losses in conference play in that scenario. Michigan will then have at least 5 losses, and if the Wolverines knock off Indiana at home, then Indiana has to lose to one more squad and we win outright. That's not unreasonable.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
How do you factor in that their the clear favorite to win outright? if they finish the Big Ten season with fewer than 5 conference loses, I'll be shocked. They won't win at Breslin. They'll struggle to win in Minnesota. The game against OSU in Madison won't be easy either. That doesn't even factor in Northwestern's ability to upset the Badgers.
Look, if MSU takes care of business at home, they finish 14-4 in conference (or better). If you're assuming Wisconsin loses in East Lansing, at best they finish 14-4 with 2 loses to MSU. I know there's a lot of assuming there, but this assumes MSU wins every game against teams not in the top 6 (MSU, UofM, Wisconsin, Minnesota, OSU and Indiana), and wins home games against those teams and loses road games against those teams.
If you makes the same assumptions for the other 4 teams in the top 6, Indiana loses 4 more times (road games @OSU, @MSU, @Minnesota, and @UofM). Michigan loses 1 more (@MSU). OSU loses two more (@Indiana, @Wisconsin). Minnesota loses one more (@OSU).
That leaves the final standings like this.
Honestly, the only thing I don't agree with is that I think Indiana wins at Minnesota. They have the athletes to keep up with the Gophers and Minnesota hasn't really played all that well lately. That jumps Indiana up to 13-5 and Minnesota down to 11-7. If this is the final standings, MSU would be the #1 seed in the B1G tournament with a 3-1 record in the tie-breaker with the top 3 teams. Wisconsin and Michigan would both have 1-2 records and Wisconsin would win that tie-breaker having beaten Michigan in their only head-to-head match-up.
And if the good Lord’s willin’,
I’m a keep on chillin’,
refillin’ and flyin’ high
I agree with this.
With the exception of the Indiana anomaly, Wisconsin tends to be a completely different team on the road than the beast they are at home. I'm not willing to hand the B1G title to them yet.
MSU's win at Kohl Center looks even better now than when it occurred.
It took them 2 OTs to beat Iowa. At home.
So what? Iowa has a ton of close losses this year. Their record sucks, but they are playing people tough. They were beating us with 1:30 left in regulation.
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