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It's reverse tokenism. Delivery was poor.
Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.
If he had said I'm here to give the annoying Jew perspective, it would have been funny. Assuming he's Jewish cause Jews can joke about being annoying.
That was just a bad joke.
Stupid. Can't stand Gottlieb but this would be a total non-issue if he was black, surrounded by white guys, and said the reverse.
SEINFELD did that for nine seasons.
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
Hate Gottlieb, but not racist.
3 white guys and 1 black guy doing the pregame show, and the black guy blurts out awkwardly "I don't know why you guys ask me, I'm just here to bring diversity to this set, give kind of the black man's perspective." No friggin way would this be a "non-issue". People would be talking about it just as much.
This isn't a comedy show, it's a live pre-game basketball show on national TV. Gottlieb's joke was not offensive. It was just extremely awkward and really has no place in this context.
He gives me the HEEBie jeebies
This post was edited by Tanfan 13 months ago
I don't find anything offensive about what he said, joke or not, it just struck me as a strange thing to say. I think the reaction it got is part of what caused the twitter uproar (twitter also just loves to do shit like that anyway), I felt awkward just watching it, can't imagine being one of the off-camera guys in the room.
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I don't agree that people would be talking about it just as much, largely because such a comment would be received in a very different way. Nobody would read anything racist into a black guy saying that, and rightly so. There would just be, if anything, discussion about how the joke fell flat and/or how awkward the moment was. None of the racewar subtext.
This post was edited by iCameron 13 months ago
People aren't really talking about this either, and no one is calling Gottlieb a racist outside of some mouth breathing morons with twitter accounts.
Other than this thread, I haven't seen this "story" being reported anywhere.
Please post some links to mainstream media discussing this so I can read the "racewar subtext" you are referring to. All I can find are a few message boards and blogs, most of which are agreeing that nothing "racist" was said and it was simply an awkward and extremely unprofessional joke about race.
I hate Gottlieb and I don't find it offensive. But why even bring this into the conversation? I realize it's a stupid joke that he probably could get away with off camera and nobody would really bat an eye, but on camera? You are just asking for trouble.
I think many African-Americans feel that white people have forfeited a certain right to joke or publicly make flippant remarks regarding race after abusing it for over 300 years.
(Before any one reacts to my post as if I feel that way, reread it. I said, " I think many African-Americans feel...")
This post was edited by One Eyed Jack 13 months ago
If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind.
- Kurt Vonnegut
Oh the horror of self deprecating humor. He could've said he was there to give a convicted thief's perspective.
"losing Caleb Benenoch is a blow that Dantonio will never recover from. Izzo has lost it as well. Hoke and Beilein own the state."
OP had a link to the daily mail, that seems fairly mainstream to me. Upon further reflection, though, I think you're right that this hasn't become much of a story outside social media, which overreacts to everything.
Dan Patrick brought it up several times. So I can just imagine what they're saying on espn radio (Mike & Douche, Cowherd, etc.). I'm sure espn loves the opportunity to take shots at someone who left their network
Sorry, almost everything Gottlieb says is offensive...he's and idiot.
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Are they calling him a racist?
What about when Barkley kept calling Jeff Withey "Whitey" last week?
You can't accuse a retard of being racist.
Dan Patrick didn't go that far. But he did keep bringing it up, and said that you can't get away with saying something like that at CBS. Maybe espn, because they have more of a fraternity atmosphere (whatever that means).
My original post was more about letting you know that yes, people are talking about it. And the story is being reported by the big guys. I'm sure Around The Horn and PTI are going to beat this to death. They love anything to do with race, even if it's a non-story.
The issue here is that some black people claimed a white person made a racist remark. Things like that just get fallenangle's blood boiling.
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awww, the school teacher is still butt-hurt that somebody he perceives as being ignorant educated him on hyphenated words Dude that was months ago, you really need to learn to get over it already
Dude, if you think I even remembered your "correction" of me, you are sadly deluded.
Maybe you need to occupy your mind thinking about, oh, I don't know, your obsession with blacks' feelings of somehow having been wronged in this country.
At least you now know that the term well-regulated is one word and not two. Instead of being all pissy and race-baity you should be thanking me
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