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Do you truly believe the whole thing about reading the gold tablets out of the tophat, or is it similar to people believing in other religions, where they blindly ignore the logic behind the "origins" and just accept it due to the benefits and message of the overall community?
This post was edited by The Doctor 18 months ago
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The means of translation are not terribly important to Mormons. We believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet for only one reason. We feel the Spirit of God testifies that to our souls. Without that, there would not be very many Mormons because Joseph Smith's story is too far-fetched and seemingly full of contradictions/problems to be believed otherwise. There are many reports as to how the translation took place. Among them that he put a special rock he called a "seer stone" into a hat and that the text would appear to him while he then spoke to a scribe who free hand wrote it down (usually a guy named Oliver Cowdery.). The bulk of translation was said to have taken place in a few months time. I don't know exactly how he translated the book.
Mormons are well aware of the problems with Joseph's story, and the lack of solid geographical evidence of the Book of Mormon, and the book of Abraham questions. Mormons are ultimately truth seekers and if Jesus personally appeared to most Mormons and said that Joseph was tricked by the devil and that it is not the right path, most would follow whatever Jesus said. What keeps Mormons believing is that we have so many genuine spiritual experiences. Sometimes doing temple work is the most amazing spiritual experience ever. I remember doing baptisms one time and it felt fine but nothing super special. A family came in and asked if they could interrupt and baptize a member of their family who had passed on. We let them and as soon as they started the baptism prayer the whole room changed in feeling. A rush of the most joyous, peaceful, loving feeling came over everyone in the room. It felt as though the deceased was there in the room watching and that the wall between our world and the spirit world was very thin. An experience like that is so powerful that it sears into your soul and you never forget it. I have felt similarly dozens or more times and that is what keeps me believing. it just feels right. We worship God and Jesus Christ, not Joseph Smith or Brigham Young or Moroni or Mormon or Mitt Romney.
This video that I watched as a twelve year old kid is what started it all for me. (There are two parts. This is part one.). Mormon theology and belief all hinge on this one event.
This post was edited by Sarsipius 18 months ago
I Live in SLC and have only dated jack Mormons, the ones who like to drink and fuck. LDS people are very nice and keep to themselves and the girls are very attractive.
Get to know her and see if she will let you "dock" it.
Held it down for Monty
Held it down For Iz
The link to part 2 above is just another link to part 1. (Why can't you delete/edit that?)
Here is the correct one.
By the way, with a few exceptions, I love almost all the songs from the Book of Mormon musical and think the play is very funny. I do think they went too far with the the giant dildo on Jesus. Not cool.
I was raised Catholic, but don't believe. I think there are good messages from the basis of any religion, but tend to not see eye to eye with the people who run those religions. I also have some fundamental problems with religious doctrine, and can't reconcile those disconnects. It's just not for me, but feel free to partake.
I do find it curious how Catholics/Protestants/Evangelicals find it so easy to be dismissive of LDS beliefs and seem to have an outward sense of superiority towards Mormons. Besides being in direct conflict with much of Jesus' teachings, it also ignores numerous doctrine in their own churches that others (like me) find absolutely implausible. (see link for examples)
I do know Mormons, and have met many others just one time. They're nicer than any other group I've met, religious or otherwise. Maybe it's the persecution, maybe it's their doctrine (which I don't know anything about).
The brilliant man lays things down like they really are, as usual.
fair enough. This is how I feel about MSU fball and hoops. We have won a basketball NC and Rose Bowl in my lifetime. I have seen much turmoil, but my faith keeps me believing it will happen again.
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