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I do believe what is far more often said is "we are going to lean on a top 5 D all year while Maxwell acclimates himself"
Can someone look up how our running game fared when Bell took over as the main RB? I know his ypc was better than Baker's.
There was a quote from Dantonio in the spring saying he thought the OL would be a strength for the first time since he's been the coach here.
That was all I needed to hear.
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I am really worried about Maxwell. I am cautiously optimistic, but it could make or break our season. He was supposed to play a few games here and there last season. If I recall, I don't believe he played once! He was supposed to get some time in the Outback bowl, and that didn't happen.
He is a rookie. He will make mistakes. He will be nervous as hell. He could be fan-fucking-tastic. But we really don't know.
But he's a veteran rookie (if that's possible) and he has a line that has proven they are good a pass blocking.
He played last year.
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Bell had 51 yards for a 2.6 yards per carry against Georgia. Granted.. a very very good D.
He had 61 yards against Nebraska for a respectable 4.8 ypc
113 for a great 5.9ypc against Wisky. 58 for 3.6 against tOSU. 117 for 5.6 against Iowa.
Good game against NW too although not breaking 100 yards
Soooo.. I guess I'll walk back my statement at least 50%. What these numbers tell me is you have a very good back working with a young , still learning, still developing O-line. Those types of lines have some trouble against top flight D's.
All this might be reason for hope for improvement in the running game this year. The great thing about the college game- young players improve markedly with each year up to about their 4th in the system as they mature in growth, strength and skill, much more so than year to year progress with pro players. No doubt the Dan France, Foo Fonoti and Travis Jackson that will start the first game in 2012 will be much better than their counterparts that started the first game in 2011...the underwhelming Georgia game performance not withstanding.
That's what I thought. Having Bell as the primary back the whole year alone will help out the rushing numbers. Add to that the improved O-Line should give you some good reason for hope that our running game will significantly improve.
I am more than happy with our pass blocking last year.
The main thing we need to improve next year ,in my opinion, is our second level blocking. I think having a more athletic guy at LG next year will help.
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This is somewhat off-topic, but it kinda freaks me out how similar the Steelers and Spartans have been since around 2007. This year, both are finally putting together extremely promising OLines after years of patchwork, with a heavier backup RB with a better YPC replacing a speed back that had started to shy away from contact. I find the developments promising in both cases.
Meh. Cautiously optimistic.
Hey Trevor, can we PLEASE get a giant 'hand wringing' smiley for threads like this?
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Giving the O-Line all of the credit for that is a mistake. A fifth year senior QB (w/ three years of starting experience) plays a big part in that statistic.
The big thing with Maxwell is that he's been in the program for a while. This is the best case scenario that you want when replacing "one of the best QBs in program history", a 4th year player who has been a two-year backup. He "has seen action in nine career games, completing 57 percent of his passes (29-for-51) for 294 yards and one touchdown." Not a lot of experience, but it's not like asking a freshman to step in.
If it makes you feel any better, in 2009 he was the Scout Team Offensive Player of the Year.
This might help a bit too...
HIGH SCHOOL AND PERSONAL DATA: Tom Lemming's Prep Football Report and PrepStar All-American . . . ranked among the nation's top pro-style quarterbacks by Rivals.com (No. 9) . . . rated among the country's top drop-back quarterbacks by Max Emfinger Recruiting (No. 18) . . . listed among the nation's top quarterbacks by Scouts, Inc. (No. 18) and Scout.com (No. 36) . . . ranked among the Midwest's top prospects by SuperPrep (No. 54) . . . rated among the state's top seniors by the Detroit Free Press (No. 4), Rivals.com (No. 4), The Detroit News (No. 5) and Lansing State Journal (No. 7) . . . received Associated Press All-State special mention in 2008 . . . first-team All-Saginaw Valley League selection as a senior . . . started 45 of 48 career varsity games played at Midland (Mich.) High School . . . played for both Terry Wilczek and Eric Methner at Midland . . . completed 151-of-254 throws (.594) for 2,032 yards, 23 touchdowns and 11 interceptions in 2008 while leading the Chemics to a 10-2 record . . . recorded two 200-yard passing games as a senior . . . hit 27-of-48 passes for 270 yards, three TDs and one interception vs. Davison in the 2008 regional final . . . threw for 172 yards and four scores in a 43-40 victory over Flint Southwestern . . . connected on 16-of-21 tosses for 188 yards and three TDs vs. Flint Central . . . completed 12-of-14 throws for 174 yards and five TDs vs. Flint Northern . . . participated in the 2008 Nike Elite 11 Quarterback Camp . . . hit 134-of-262 passes (.510) for 2,024 yards, 18 TDs and seven interceptions as a junior while leading Midland to the Division 2 state championship game . . . set 14 school single-game, single-season and career passing records . . . completed 387-of-778 career passes (.497) for 5,488 yards, 54 TDs and 34 interceptions . . . also lettered in track and field and basketball . . . finished second in the high jump (personal best 6-7) at the Division 1 state finals as a senior . . . recognized as one of Saginaw Valley League's top scholar-athletes, earning all-academic honors in all three sports . . . graduated with a 4.35 grade-point average, ranking in the top 10 percent of his class . . . member of the National Honor Society . . . served as president of the Midland student council . . . in May 2009, received a first-place award for his sports news story in Focus, Midland's student newspaper, from the Michigan Interscholastic Press Association . . . son of Mark and Karen Maxwell . . . born Jan. 7, 1991 . . . participates in Athletes in Action sports ministry . . . majoring in majoring in supply chain management.
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I've heard that one a lot of the UM contingent, but if there's one thing people on this board complained about incessantly was KC holding onto the ball and not just throwing it away when a play went South . . . so how much of that was really KC?
KC dropped back over 400 times and was sacked 15 (one sack on Maxwell). That's a fantastic #, and you don't achieve that solely by having an experienced QB. You'd have to look at how many times he was hurried/pressured to get a true # though, and I don't have those stats available relative to the other programs in the country.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I dont think our line showed dominance into run game last year... Not like a Wisconsin type line. I think we will be just fine in lass protection coupled with the fact Maxwell is more mobile than Cousins.
I agree, but I didn't say it was "solely" because of an experienced QB. I just posted that giving the O-Line ALL of the credit for the low sack number was a mistake. Talented fifth year senior QB's are major difference makers in college football, and SOME of the credit for the low sack number should go to Cousins.
I agree with that. I'm still impressed at the low #, especially when the OL featured a pair of first-time OTs in France and Fonoti (JUCO OG) for most of the season. I figure their pass-blocking should only improve.
Actually, I noticed more pressure coming up the middle than from the outsides; I think the flux at C combined with Foreman's health issues made the interior more permeable than it should have been (back to back 4 sacks-allowed games vs. WI and Neb).
In any event, there should be improvement this year, so that's a good thing. How much? We'll see.
To be fair, not many OL in the country are at the level of WI's unit. Bama's is in the same class, but good lord, Wisky's OL is huge.
I'm still holding out for my dream anti-Wisconsin DL of Gholston, White, Reynolds and Hoover. That unit would go:
I just want to see it for one snap. Just one .
Keep in mind that he'll be throwing to the same receivers he's been working with for the past three years on the scout team. There will be some chemistry there. Also keep in mind that he's been running the scout team against one of the best defenses in the country. While there's no substitute for game experience, that has to be a good way to learn.
Here is the deal: Bell averaged 5.2 ypc last year. Also, MSU was second in the big ten with lowest sacks allowed, and this was with an immobile QB. Bell was averaging over 4 ypc against ND. How many times did he get the ball you ask? 8 times. Our line was not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Roushar, however, was IMO. Still pissed about ND and NEB.
Pass pro should be good again as it always seems to be, we haven't seen consistent good run blacking since 2007 it seems though. Palazeti isn't going to destroy people quite as hard as Anderson, but he's still a truck and should be a little more mobile. Who ends up being the 2nd and 3rd TE is one of the things I'm most excited to see. Not sure if Gleichert is the real deal or his spot on the Spring depth chart is just a result of lack of depth. Need to see what Jones and Price can do.
Post Nebraska was the first time I've called for a coaches head. Bad times, he seemed to improve though.
Called great games both times against Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, and the second half of Georgia.
But ND and Nebraska (Nebraska especially) were just awful.
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