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We've been looking around all day and we've pretty much narrowed it down to these two. Other vehicles we considered were the Ford Edge, Lincoln MKX (Lincoln version of the Ford Edge, whatever it's called), VW wagon diesel, Cadillac wagon, and a few others...
The Audi Q5 and Cherokee Overland will run about the same price, right around 42k, with the options we're looking at. The Audi gets better gas mileage but I think it's uglier, it drives kind of odd, it's smaller... Overland is more of a "truck" - it feels solid, rides great, super comfortable (the leather is amazing), sound system, it's roomier than the Q5. The disadvantage with the Overland is the gas mileage and the resale value. The Audi should hold it's value better.
So really, the difference is this: Audi is smaller and gets better gas mileage whereas the Jeep is roomier, worse gas mileage, more solid feel, more comfortable.
Do any of you boners have any experiences with either vehicles that you'd like to share?
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My boner is huge
My boner is not smooth.
I really like the look of the latest grand Cherokee models. Very taut and muscular with a nice interior. I prefer sportier vehicles and I'd guess that would be the Audi but the German car will in the long run probably be less reliable and more expensive to repair. That's why I lease my 328i for 3 years and give it back.
The Q5 is ugly as shit IMO. Cherokee isn't great looking but it's a classic look.
Stay away from Turbo anything..... Buy the Jeep
I have a 7.2 inch Hemispherical Big Cock under my hood. Tons of torque. Great for dirt roads and wet surfaces.
I will send pics. Your wife will love it. True American Muscle.
So why are you even considering the Audi?
This isn't 1900. Turbo's are reliable and efficient. They are the current and future way to make good power and get better gas mileage.
I have the 2011 overland in mineral gray with the saddle leather, 4x4 v8 and it is awesome. Sure it's thirsty, but who cares. It is a bad ass ride.
Frankly, if I was thinking sport utility, just get a Yukon and be done with it. Do it once, do it right
hey gHost, you're a racist and hate native americans so you'll probably get the Audi like a nazi.
Cherokee much more capable off road where as the q5 is more of a car.
Also, if sticker is $42k on the Cherokee it means you can get it for about $36k
I just got the Altitude Grand Cherokee and I love it. Came from an Audi A4
Turbo' aren't reliable, trust me, I know of what I speak. They break.
They burn out from oil delivery problems due to dirty filters and screens, are rarely treated / maintained properly, and seldom make it 100,000 miles in anything on the road that is even moderately put through the paces
Not to mention higher insurance premiums for them as well much higher... And for what a small narrow power and motor you constantly have to lean on to get to perform/ tow like a V8, some chores it just plain will never be up to
I had a turbo forester I took real good care of that needed a turbo at 65K miles
There is no displacement for displacement
This post was edited by Mudjin harbor 19 months ago
2mph looks the same sitting in any car.
35,600 posts and counting since 09-09-2002. tRCMB Dead Pool Commissioner.
You don't know from what you speak. If properly maintained turbos are very reliable. Modern oils and bearings have changed the reliability. And higher insurance premiums vs other engines with the same HP? No. You are forgetting that CAFE standards are the key and large displacement normally aspirated engines suck fuel and are soon going to be limited to expensive cars and muscle cars. BMW, Audi, Ford, Mercedes, Hyundai, VW, Porsche, GM and others use turbos and/or superchargers and if problems were common we'd hear about it.
You don't know what you're talking about. This isn't 1950.
Every automotive mfg is using turbos now. Ecoboost from Ford, GM uses turbos, Audi, Porsche, etc.
The 3.6L Ford Ecoboost was put into the raptor and ran for a couple hundred thousand miles (including Baja, running 24 hrs straight pulling max load, etc.). 3.6L v6 is every bit as powerful as the Ford 5.0 v8 while getting better mpg.
Turbos commonly go bad, rarely make it 100k, usually don't last that long.
The increased cylinder pressure created by turbos and supercharges are hard on reliability, well engineered yes, hard on internal parts, yes again
My foresterxt lasted 65k as I said and needed replaced. I have talked to tons of turbo owners, they are snappy but have finite durability, generally require premium fuel and are higher on insurance
Get a bigger motor that makes more smooth linear power at lower rpm, regular gas, and less insurance and maintenance.
I like turbo's, but if you think they are as reliable all things considered as a normally aspirated engine your full of shit
Regards hearing about what beaks and when, let's say I am uniquely qualified to know exactly what breaks,when, how often and what it costs to fix it.
I have a 12,500 lbs boat. I want to purchase a crew cab truck to haul it. Please find me a truck to haul this boat with.
Buy a duramax
My father drag races. He rebuilds old engines and enters races and what not, old Mustangs, etc. He has never had a problem with a turbo engine in 30 years of doing this.
Knibb High football rules
Once again, big displacement NA engines are dinosaurs and are dying a slow death. Of this there is absolutely the truth. CAFE, CAFE, CAFE. And just because your piece of shit Subaru turbo died doesn't mean they are all poorly engineered. Also, plenty of non-forced induction cars these days require premium fuel. Turbo's don't dictate higher octane fuel, ignition mapping and compression ratio do.
Mudjin really does not know what he's talking about.
Turbos are not reliable.
Ummm... that's a turbo, bud.
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