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Do you think they would do away with protected rivalries if they do east/west or in her/on her? Purdue/Indiana would be the only game that is actually a rivalry, and no one gives a shit about a football game between the two.
Our recruiting base is and will always be Michigan and Ohio. UM and OSU aren't going to suddenly get MOAR ELITE!!! talent just because they're playing Rutgers and Maryland every year. They already get the players they want and there are only 85 scholarships to go around.
They should put Michigan and Ohio State in one division, and everyone else in another. Michigan and Ohio State will have 4 home games against each other and the winner of the series goes to the Big Ten Championship to face the winner of the other division. However, if Michigan and OSU are tied at 4-4, they'll just play in the championship game so it can be settled on a neutral field.
What about the scUM - MSU rivalry?
I'm not sure Wisconsin's trip to Pasadena this year validates that statement.
You know what's a worse idea? Having to play Michigan and Ohio State every year without even appearing in a title game.
East/West gives Nebraska or Wisconsin free reign to walk into the title game year in and year out.
This post was edited by MyWorldEntire 16 months ago
Have you noticed how often we've beaten o$u the last four decades? Fuck um, they're a bunch of overblown pussies. But staying away from brutu$ is good for MSU.
Vim -- noun: robust energy and enthusiasm : VITALITY
What about N/S?
N: Minny, wusconsin, NW, MSU, um, PSU, Rutgers
S: Nebraska, iowa, illinois, IU, Purdue, o$u, Maryland
I thought the days of the Big 2 and the rest are over. At least that is what I read on this board or are you just conceding Michigan State football is a second rate program?
Well I'm not counting on OSU and PSU being on probation every year
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
Don't care as long as MSU plays Iowa every year.
Because they beat us more then we beat them. I would like to go to the Rose Bowl. Thats why. Can't see us winning to many BTCG's playing Ohio State, Michigan, and 3 of the 4 Neb/Iowa/Wisk/PSU, plus another great team in the title game.
Michigan State University is the university of Michigan
The only point I'm making is: why would you want to make it more difficult for yourself to make the Title Game and Rose Bowl each year?
Of the options listed, I like the current divisions and +1 the most (by a wide margin). Preferably with Rutgers in our division. MSU needs yearly games in the new recruiting grounds. I'd prefer having both Rutgers and Maryland to be in our division, but that ain't gonna happen. I'd LOVE to tap into that NJ talent base.
The inner/outer is the worst choice. It not only pits us against both UM and OSU yearly in our own division, but it is the most limiting in exposure as far as recruiting grounds go.
Depending on how the divisions are split up, MSU could be given a boost, or marginalized. If we end up with neither of the new teams in our division (as the first reports indicated), MSU "loses" with expansion.
This. OSU is top dog in the conference and it isn't close. I want to play them as little as possible.
It would become the protected crossover game now that UM wouldn't have to reserve that status for OSU.
This is a Pallas’s cat. Their round pupils give them an odd human quality. They disturb me...deeply.
I thought about this too, but the North is so much stronger than the South.
There's a time and a place for everything and it's called college.
Avoiding o$u and schools from states that fought for the Confederacy, (or in the case of Maryland, seem to wish they did), are my top priorities.
East-Rutgers, Maryland, Penn St, OSU, UM, Indiana, Purdue
West-MSU, Ill, NW, Wiscy, Minn, Neb, Iowa
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Yep. Don't want to be in the Big 12 North Part II.
I'm all in for Inner-Outer. As the conference grows it gets harder and harder to maintain meaningful rivalries, which are the point of watching all season. You guys act like it's about nothing but Rose Bowls. If so, why the heck are you still watching? We haven't gone in 25 years. The REAL excitement behind MSU football are the games against scUM, OSU, etc.
There are 4 rivalry groups in the conference:
Penn St.-new eastern teams
Any system that keeps those groupings intact is good for the league and good for MSU. Obviously in football those rivalry groups are listed in order of strength. The Inner-Outer splits these up equitably, 1+4 on one side and 2+3 on the other. With no more need for cross-division "protected rivalries", it means you can rotate more freely between playing each of the other division's teams, meaning visiting different recruiting areas more often, and for instance, playing Iowa 2 out of 7 years instead of 1 out of 7 years.
And even if you're stuck on Rose Bowl or Bust mentality, really it's not bad. We'd be trading our tough mid/high-level division for a division with just one or two top teams and a bunch of low-tier teams.
This post was edited by mark_v 16 months ago
No. Keep Michigan and Ohio State in opposite divisions. It weakens their rivalry.
Keep current divisions. Add one to each.
I don't care about weakening their rivalry. Like it or not, it's a good one. I care about maintaining the games that matter to each school in the conference.
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