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You mean frothing right wingers
oh good... a Fox News article...
That is because a whole bunch of "igorant" (rcmbspeak) people inhabit this cesspool of a swamp.
I'm not getting into the loan/bailout stuff. It's good when the Big 3 are doing well, so regardless of what you think of what happened in the past, we should be able to agree that it's good when these companies do well. Not in the car market yet, but will be relatively soon and I've been impressed of what's coming off the lines from the Big 3.
It's all due to making the greedy unions take a much needed haircut.
It's too bad that it came to this, but even the government agreed that things were out of hand.
Toyota recalls 1 million Corollas, Lexus sedans
Guess the alternative isn't worth a shit either.
Combined, it's one of the largest recalls so far this year
Toyota is recalling 907,000 vehicles, mostly Corolla models, around the world for faulty air bags and another 385,000 Lexus IS luxury cars for defective wipers.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Tree Rat 18 months ago
Soooo let me get this straight: US automakers need billions of dollars of help to stay afloat, since Japanese engineering has made them their bitches over the course of two decades. Japanese automaker has a recall of 900,000 vehicles and they're not worth a shit???
Short memory, buddy. Ford recalled something like 14 million cars 3 years ago because of spontaneous combustion. Toyota had the huge 2010 gaffe as well, but I believe the number wasn't close to 14M.
Not saying I don't support US brands, I do, but the lack of humility and realizing that Japan was producing one hell of an attractive product is immature, at best.
Short term memory is also all the people forgetting that until when...the 80's? 90's? Japan was producing absolute pieces of crap. The American public seems to be OK with buying those now. Why is Japan given more leeway and forgiveness? People rail against the US government loaning money to US auto manufacturers, but have no problem with the fact that Japan has been subsidizing their automakers for years and it was that subsidization that brought about the working conditions that we have today. Honda and Toyota would have gone under decades ago. You don't care because it was Japan's money not ours? What about the fact that that unequal playing field forced US automakers to try to shave costs to compete by shipping manufacturing to Mexico and Canada and all over the world to the loss of thousands of US jobs and tax dollars? So now we've got Americans unwilling to reinvest in America and have no problem continuing to prop up Japan's economy. There's nothing wrong with American cars. People them not buying them out of spite are just shooting themselves in the foot. Especially Michiganders/Michiganians. Fortunately, a lot of people have been taking notice and buying from Big 3. With those companies successful, it's nothing but good for the country.
35,600 posts and counting since 09-09-2002. tRCMB Dead Pool Commissioner.
I appreciate your fervor and dedication in skewering me... but you should probably read the part of my post where I say "I support US brands."
Sorry. It was not so much skewering you, but it's my frustration with the situation in general. To me it would be like having Mark Dantonio out there recruiting players for UofM to sign. People make fun of Michigan and the midwest in general and completely remove themselves from the equation. If people want the state to come back, it starts with the Big 3. It's one of the biggest industries the country has left.
Let's see, the money that the gov't did not get back from Chrysler is the 'bailout' money Bush gave them to float them til Obama took office. The money loaned by Obama was paid back in full. I am an independent who leans to the right, but I laugh everytime someone blames the losses on Obama. He is by no means perfect, but he is also not the source of all our problems. The whole reason the auto industry went into the tank was because of locked up credit markets. Japan, Sweden, etc all bailed out their auto companies, because they knew the consequences of letting them go under. You should be happy that the auto companies are again doing well. It trickles down to everyone, Dr's,dentists (autoworkers have good health insurance) not to mention retailers and restaurants. Anyone surprised that starbucks had to close a bunch of shops when the automakers were going south?
Anyone in a auto related field of work, as my family has been, will always be skeptical to the good news. And as always, there is an obscene amount of money being made at the top, despite thousands of layoffs at other sectors of the auto world. Thought the PR nightmare from '08-09 would have changed this culture. Oh well...........
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