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Insider, on MSU
12) Michigan State Spartans (Previous ranking: 13)
Michigan State is going to be difficult to play against in the NCAA tournament. Solid defensively and very good on the offensive end, the only issue that Tom Izzo hasn't been able to shore up is ball security. The Spartans turn over the ball on 21.3 percent of their possessions, 237th in the country. Keith Appling has become an elite point guard, and Izzo is getting good play out of his big men.
The injury to Travis Trice is disappointing. First, Trice has already dealt with a concussion this year, and he had to sit in a dark room and it affected every part of his life, not just basketball. The Bilastrator hates to see him go through that again. Second, Trice is tough as nails, and does a really nice job moving Appling off the ball, and he can shoot it. Any absence of Trice really hurts. The Spartans are smack dab in the middle of a brutal stretch, with Minnesota, Purdue and Michigan next up.
I think the ball security thing is being fixed, the game against Minny was exceptional in terms of taking care of the ball. This team will have people nervous in march.
I'm not worried.
If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind.
- Kurt Vonnegut
funny how the magical 0 turnover half led to only 18 points...
Bad shots don't count as turnovers, technically
Yet we're behind O$U and KU.
What I can't for the life of me understand is everyone saying the IU-scUM game showcased that there are clearly two teams head and shoulders above everyone else. Our game against IU was just as close, it was a far crisper game, both teams looked better, and (even though we lost) it was a better and more enjoyable game. The IU-scUM game was great, but it was definitely below us. Yet all ESPN is saying is that it was the game of the year, and seem to discount that we lost by less.
The simplest explanation is that it's because our game was on CBS - theirs was on ESPN. I want to try really hard to believe it's not this, but I can't seem to think of another reason. Can someone tell me I'm wearing green-tinted glasses?
You're not. It's BS. We played awesome and lost by less.
I don't get it either. I think the problem is that MSU is near the top and we don't play pretty. UM and IU are the media darlings. ESPN loves to be able to bring a blue blood that has been down back into play. Look at all the um commentators, so you get that whole fab five thing going on. MSU seems to be a kink in the story that isn't fitting how the year should go for them. I watched the um-IU game and our game against IU and I thought ours was played better as well. IU couldn't nail the 3 pointers all of the sudden that they were hitting against us and um didn't look impressive. It takes a lot though for the commentators to have to leave their narration for the whole year. And that narration right now is that um and IU are back, that um has the best guards in the US and IU has the best big man. They already called the game with O$U and um the game of the season though, and I thought it was ok, but not spectacular, other than a streaky shooter keeping um in it.
We'll have our chance to make a statement on Tuesday so long as we take care of business against Purdue on Saturday.
And no, you're not wearing green colored glasses.
Both IU/MSU and IU/UM games were very competitive. I think IU has a clear stake as the best team in the conference right now, but I think both MSU and UM are pretty close to them.
This post was edited by Harry Hood 17 months ago
I think there's a (partially justified) obsession with star players. OSU and Kansas has them, and especially scUM and IU do. Those teams will always be looked at more favorably than teams that play more like teams. Appling is almost there, but not yet, so we're looked at as 2nd tier.
As much as i dislike it, when it comes down to it there aren't many/any teams without big star players that win the championship. At some point you run into a great defense or an incredible shooting team, and you need somebody with the ability to take it up a level and play like an NBA all star for a game or two. I think of all the teams in the country we are the least likely to fall in a bad upset, but do we have the kind of guys that will be able to turn into world-beaters? IU does. scUM probably does. OSU really does, even though the rest of their team isn't as good as ours is.
That's exactly it.
-2 on my post? Lots of walverine lurkers. Bring it.
It was 1 vs 2 (or 3?). There were way more eyes on that game.
...and with Gameday there half the ESPN college hoops analyst were at the game.
Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance
Sorry, Jay, but keeping UF at #3 throws all cred out the door.
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
When did he write it? He still had Minnesota as a game that was coming up for us, so I don't know when he wrote it (though I don't have Insider so can't read the article).
UM should never be mentioned as a blue blood, as they've never been considered one.
Yeah, it may sound smarmy, but if anyone considers UofM a "blue blood", you also have to add Arkansas, UNLV, Georgetown, NC State, and others to the same list.
Pretty sure he meant Indiana...at least I hope.
This. Is scUM a historical top 25 program - yeah, probably. Are they top 15 - maaaaaybe. But in no way are they top 10 or top 5.
FTR: Blue Bloods = Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Duke, UNC, IU.
Uconn, Louisville, MSU, Cincy, and O$U are next up. Next NC for any of those programs and they jump up.
Edit: Forgot O$U
This post was edited by RBW Spartan 17 months ago
This. Sorry I should have been more clear. I was talking about IU.
Its because he wrote it a couple of days ago before our win against Minnesota, Kansas' loss to TCU and maybe even OSU's loss to Michigan.
I'd say we should be sitting right around #8 in any poll right now in the country. Slowly getting better and creeping up into March.
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