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I don't see Minnesota celebrating their Final Four appearance in 1997 under Clem Haskins (they have never made it there in any other season) nor do I see tOSU celebrating Jim O'Brien's FF run in 1999 either.
Both are embarrassments that neither university ever wants to bring attention to.
Lol, he ripped them because they are FRAUDS trying to make a "legitimate" claim for respect and credit that they do not deserve. Knight was just setting the record straight out of respect to the coaches and teams who have legitimate rights to those honors.
Also, scum cheating directly impacted the W/L records, notoriety, and recruiting efforts of every coach in the B10 conference, including Bob Knight's teams. I'm sure he hates/d scum.
Scum cheating nearly killed Jud Heathcote, who did things the "right way" and was a good friend of Knight's.
Scammin' Scummers and ESPN want to revise history, but thank God Bob Knight is around to set the record straight.
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The will to succeed is important, but what's more important is the will to prepare.
Because they're michigan
Behold the walls of Sparta: 10000 men and every one a brick.
Remember when they invented baggy shorts and swagger on the basketball court?
This pretty much nails it! ....and they took disrespectful to a whole new level....so I can see why the AAfromAA wallow in this.
Who, Jalen Rose?
yeah, because otherwise ESPN is hardly mentioning their game Saturday
Zeke and Steve Alford!
It sucks that it's no longer accurate since Old Man Howard rode the pine to a ring with the Heat
Don Canham said that the Fabs were the biggest embarrassment in UM history. Really don't get why UM fans and alums even talk about them anymore.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
Because UM fans and members of the Fab Five are talking about the Fab Five instead or your team this year.
How many UM people feel or felt bad because their illegal recruiting of Mateen Cleaves almost cost him his career, certainly damaged it, and cost Mateen his freshman season? I would imagine if something similar were to happen today, the interwebs might pick up on it.
That is an aspect that gets very little attention to this day.
More amazing yet was that after that incident UM was still able to once again sweep Ed Martin under the carpet, continue using him as a recruiting tool and get away with it until the FBI stepped in.
have to love the picture, but it's a few years old now... didn't Howard pick up a ring?
get the new Nike MSU font: http://tinyurl.com/spartansfont
How did it cost him his freshman season?
UM administrators must absolutely CRINGE when Jailen shows up courtside like this for one of their biggest games in 20 years and instantly reminds the entire country of their program's history of cheating.
Cleaves was injured in the infamous SUV rollover. I believe it was his back, and much like Payne and Payne who nursed injuries before their Freshmen campaigns, he lost a Summer of development. His freshmen year he struggled early on from the effects of the accident.
My banner? You mean my team's back to back to back league champion banners from back in high school aren't there anymore? How do you know this? *rolls eyes*
Hey I look at the Fab Five's banners just like I look at the Running Rebels banners from back in their heyday. Sure they were all clouded in a great deal of controversy but they were still accomplished teams no matter how shadily those players were recruited out of high school. At the end of the day a Final Four is a Final Four. I'm not saying anyone should pay a ton of homage to them, I'm just saying Bobby Knight's statement that they didn't achieve or win anything simply because they didn't win either a league or national title is misguided logic because it completely diminishes the great accomplishment that is a Final Four.
You know who should be honored in that crap hole Chrysler instead of the Fraud Five? All those teams that missed an opportunity to go to the finals because of their cheating ways.
I'm sick of this sports culture that honors the cheater and forgets about those that got hosed.
How does that sound?
You loved the baggy shorts, didn't you?
Why??? King and Jackson go to home games
The logic, I can't find it anywhere in this post.
But hardly anyone else does, so it's not as big of a deal.
I heard the guys on siriusXM playing a game they called "Back When"
It was all of the guys saying things that happened "Back when Michigan was last ranked Number 1"
The best one they kept going back to was the fact that Home Alone was the #1 movie when Michigan was last ranked number 1."
As it's been said, some people (a lot of people) care about how things are won as much as the fact they are won. Also, from what I've read, Knight doesn't specify what he's referring to. He very well could just be referring to the vacating of those seasons and not knocking getting to the Final Four as an accomplishment.
That's what they've been trying to do for years. It ignores the fact that Martin was around long before Webber. Frieder and Martin were thick as thieves and it's documented that Martin offered Terry Mills benefits to go to U of M. The 89' Title was a sham too. They paid those players too and it was just past the NCAA's statute of limitations to look into.
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