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well i can see you don't want to hear it. there are some other examples, guys like jb shugarts and mike adams had similar expectations. and while they were starters for a number of years, they did not live up to those expectations either. they could turn a corner in the nfl, who knows.
I could say the same to you about the 12 games before the NC in 2006. Seems like your fanbase doesn't want to hear that either.
you're spot on. i'd rather forget about the '06 season. when you look at the skill position players you can see why we had success on offense. beanie wells, ted ginn jr, anthony gonzales, brian hartline, jake ballard, brian robiskie, even troy smith made a run in the nfl. we got severely outplayed on the line, leading to a measely 14 points.
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but all teams deal with players that don't pan out. That's not necessarily on the coaching, some kids just can't adjust to college ball. That's why you see 4 and 5 star busts and 2 star All Americans.
Great points Spartan80 -
I'll add two more differentiators:
Treadwell became better at making in-game adjustments. Roushar not so much, not at all
Defenses were not able to anticipate the count or play like they were able to last year. I remember at least a couple of teams saying they knew the play we were running before the snap (I think it might have been Iowa $ tOSU)
I wish we could have gotten Treadwell back.
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Actually, if you remove points scored via the defense and special teams for all years, the 2011 team averaged fewer PPG than both the 2009 and 2010 teams.
I will just link a 2010 article. There were 132 assistants making $250,000 or more. You can bet almost all of them were coordinators. Let's just say that is 40 schools paying both coordinators over $250,000 with some big time schools paying random other coaches a bit more. Now it's 2+ years later, and you can damn well bet it's 60 or so now, in other words pretty much every BCS school is paying their coordinators more than Bollman was getting as an oline coach and some of the higher end non BCS schools. Taking salary stagnation into account for some coaches that have been at schools for a while, and getting a new coordinator is pretty much a $250,000+ salary for most schools in the NCAA and all of the BCS schools.
This is big boy football people, and you are happy with high end non BCS football? You act like MSU is Fresno State. MSU should be acting like a top 20 team, not an also ran. MSU should not be settling for a guy that pretty much every BCS team with an OC opening passed on. They should be able to woo big time assistants, be it up and comers or guys highly desired. Bollman is simply neither of those, and in 13 years was never able to find a job outside of Ohio State that could offer him more (unlike every single other assistant besides Dick Tressel and Heacock who had legit reasons not to leave, unlike Bollman). You do the math. Was Bollman an misunderstood genius that just loved Ohio State so much he was willing to stagnate his career while almost all of his peers moved ahead or was he a guy no other team wanted while Jim Tressel ran the offense as Bollman was nothing more than a glorified oline coach?
There are red flags all over this guy and you know it. As an oline coach he could be a solid hire, yet if he ends up as the main OC at a place where the head coach is a defensive guy (hence giving his OC more free reign) this is a very questionable hire.
College football's assistant coaches' salaries rising
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this....open up the fucking pocket book and go after people with an aggressive plan saying we want to win and we want to beat out everyone else....help us make MSU a force to be reckoned with
To die in ann arbor is redundant
Yo Sparty, those lines you're reading about Bollman and recruiting... don't buy into it, while at OSU it was widely known that Bollman does not like to recruit and didn't give it his whole heart.
So when this guy is announced as co-coordinator and TE coach are you going to be mad that you spent so much time and energy trying to push your OPINION onto others on the internet? I'll hang up and listen.
No. Note the "if he end up" part.
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Or, you know, we could give the guy a chance before completely writing him off.
Again, does paying Narduzzi more than 500,000 a year count as cheap?
Are you? Because neither of your opinions (or anyone else's) mean dick. But that's what message boards are for, isn't it? To spout off opposing opinions that actual decision makers will completely ignore.
Guinness makes you drop mud.
I don't buy it. You've spent all day posting about a position that hasn't even officially been filled and judging from your posting style you can tell that your blood pressure is up. When it's announced that he's the TE coach with a co-coordinator title you are going to stroke out. I mean, no sane person types 2000 words of opposition to a coaching hire that hasn't even been announced. I just hope you post your meltdown for all tRCMB to see.
I didn't write him off. I have even said he might work out. Yet I have stated the hire is questionable. You guys read what you want to read because you cannot see past your green glasses. The team just barely made a bowl game, while that happens with lots of high level teams, they also don't just go through a short run of 1 conference title (shared) and then say "oh, it's ok to have 1 down year."
I stated that if it happens. It's pretty simple. I am sorry that you think my posting style is anger, which it's not, but hey, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. I find your posting style pathetic. I guess you are pathetic by your standards.
Oh, so you think it's unusual that the offensive coordinator for a top five program--with one national championship and and two more BCS title game appearances under his belt--never sniffed a head coaching job in 13 years? Yeah, nothing to be concerned about.
As a straight replacement for Roushar I'm indifferent on Bollman, especially with the strong rumors that he won't be calling plays. I don't think Roushar was the sole cause of our problems offense, and bringing in an equally mediocre-to-capable OC is fine if your goal is to maintain the status quo.
But if you wanted MSU to use this opportunity to bring in a difference maker, Bollman is a huge disappointment.
You've got 16 posts yourself in this thread there champ, or should I say kettle?
A coaching staff is a brain trust. Experience is very important. There is a lot of strategy involved, planning, decision making and just plain guessing. Experience helps in all these areas. In most situations Bollman will have been there before and will quickly have an idea about what to do. Bollman's offense was good enough that OSU was the best team in the Big Ten during his tenure. It was not designed to put up big numbers it was designed to win games. Rich Rod and Sept Heisman put up unbelievable numbers but they won exactly squat. Bollman's O put up good but not amazing numbers and won consistently. Winning is more important than putting up big stats. If you follow our team you should have figured that out by now.
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Wait, who got hired? Can you link me to the contract terms? When was the press conference? How did I miss this?
Ahh there it is, the personal attack. I'm going to soke this one in.
This post is just confusing. I do think a coach not moving on as a coordinator from a top 5 program is unusual. That is true. Yet I have stated that is in fact reason for concern. Seems to me you are actually on board with my way of thinking.
Bollman has been hired to help the running game. Roushar was anti-run.
No, I'm kinda getting that same vibe too.
Good luck to Coach Bollman. This thread is embarrassing.
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