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Exactly, I'm sure they thought he was the devil years ago. And that's fine, I don't blame them for buying in, getting excited and sticking up for their new guy. That said, it would be in everyone's best interest to take a step back and think about what is best for the long term goals of the conference.
I think that doing things a right way is a big part of those goals.
And that was what?
fuck beilema. i still am sad about the BTT game.
I don't know, but meathead publicly stated that not only did he do something illegal, but the he called meyer personally and confronted him on it.
Bielema is definitely a whiny bitch, but not because of this. Eff Urban.
I saw that and Urban said he wouldn't do it again or something like that. I'd like to hear more.
Direct quote from press conference transcript:
QUESTION #22: Is Urban Meyer’s hiring changed recruiting in the Upper Midwest and in the Big Ten?
BIELEMA: Well, I don’t think it, I hope it doesn’t change. I think the potential to change has been there. And, there’s a few things that happened early on that I made people be aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league that I had seen take place at other leagues, other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. And I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact. I actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him, and the situation got rectified.
But the one thing I love about this league, it was kind of funny, when I was a younger coach, I was offered a job in another league, right? And this coach, I was working for $175,000 for Coach Alvarez, and he asked me what I was making, and I said I was making $175,000. He goes, ‘how many year contract?’ I said, ‘zero, just a one-year contract.’ He goes, ‘I’ll offer you $350,000 in a four-year contract.’ And I’m like, ‘ah, I don’t think so. You know, it’s not, money is not important to me at this point. I kind of want to stay where I’m at in the Big Ten. It’s got great values. I’m at a great place, a great institution.’
He goes, ‘okay, I’ll make it $450,000, and I’ll give you a five-year guarantee.’ I said, ‘okay, now I’ve got to talk to you.’ But it did make a point of interest to me. I didn’t tell you that I was just joking. But it was a real offer that was out there. And he said to me, ‘you know what the difference between the Big Ten and this conference is?’
And I said, ‘no.’ He said, ‘in the Big Ten, everybody tells on everybody. In our conference, nobody tells on anybody.’ And that made a huge comment to me. And I’ve been very cognizant of that, encourage our coaches to play by the books, to do things in a certain way. If you have to lie, cheat, or steal to get someone here, it doesn’t make a great point once you get them here about how you’ve got to handle them.
So I think that’s the point that I’ll take moving forward. Our league is based on certain values that we’re going to hold to be true. And, you know, if you don’t hold to those things to be true in our conference, well, you’ll be held accountable.
Most of what you say is true, but I'm not so sure about his recruiting stud classes. His success was w/Zook's kids and when those kids were all gone things started heading south. consider the guy's entire career, he comes in wins with the previous coach's players and then takes off. He wasn't at BGU or Utah long enough to have to live entirely w/ his recruits, and when his recruits took over at UF, he got sick.
Just when I thought my disgust for the SEC could not be any stronger.....
Screw the SEC, I don't honestly think they should be associated with NCAA sports.
No, even Bielema isn't moronic enough to cry about recruiting someone else's verbals. It's about real infractions, and you can hide your head in the sand if you want, but your new guy will turn out to be dirtier than the one you heaved over the side. Next set of sanctions will really screw you up.
You have no idea what Dantonio and Hollis are doing regarding the creep from cbus.
This makes you look dumb, because it isn't about recruiting verbals to other schools.
I love that the suckeyes are running like lemmings to this board and others to try to put out fires. Go home if its nothing? Why you here son?
Pretty much. =/
Meyer can burn in hell for all I care. Whether it is Beilema turning the coals for him doesn't matter to me one stinking bit.
Sparty > Walverines
Next, your going to say I am Drew Sharp...
Dr Opti, providing wisdom;one message at a time.
If Drew Sharp said it, it must be true.
We sold out our allotment of tickets in no time.
Yeah...MSU sold out their allotment, and bought up some of Wisconsins'
Actually, being at the game, the only section that wasn't full was the way upper deck in the Wisconsin end zone. Even the General Sales tickets in the upper deck on the sidelines were full.
That ticket stuff that was in the "papers" was all garbage.
Regardless it's not like OSU is going to have to worry about selling tickets to the B1GCG or a Bowl game this season.
Meyer is always going to flip recruits. He is obviously a good coach and better salesmen. But, one thing he is terrible at, is an evaluator of talent. He basically has admitted as much. He did an interview about this time a year ago (after he "retired") on SIrius radio about recruiting and signing day etc. He admitted that he often would look at whom he considered a good coach and see who they are offering. If you had an Alabama offer from Saban, it was all but guaranteed that you were going to be recruited by Saban. Meyer thinks certain coaches have a gift for evaluating talent, and if he sees them going after kids, he will go after them as well. He is a slime bag for sure, the NCAA didn't care that Tressel was cheating at OSU, do you really think the are going to care that Meyer is doing stuff that may be "unethical" but is not technically breaking rules?
Good read on the situation. Trying to look at both sides of the coin.
1) So if Delaney suspends OSU players last year for clear violations, OSU was going to fire him? What the hell are you talking about?
2) What the hell are you talking about? What you wrote makes no sense whatsoever. Delaney was stealing equipment and selling it?
3) I'm not sure what point you're making here or what suspending OSU has to do with the acquisition of Nebraska...done with the intent of creating two divisions so there could be a championship game. So again, what the hell are you talking about?
So, I am confused, re: Pittman. A couple days ago, Meyer said that Pittman initiated the conversations with him. Now, it is the other way around. Which is it?
They got Pittman, whatever. We are fine, and will continue to be fine under this regime. Nice spin they have on things though.......impressive.
Yea, I'm sure it's very balanced. I'm not going to look at it, but I'll bet it's talking about the "gentleman's agreement" and how its dumb or never existed. I'll bet it states all is fair in recruiting, I'll bet it essentially calls Beilema and Dantonio babies. I'll bet it's dripping with insane arrogance in every word. Coming from OSU, it's also probably dripping with insane stupidity.
I would take Drew Sharp's word over yours any day of the week.
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