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and this isn't the first time...
And I thought we were leading the 2013 recruiting class for a second
Because that was a funny comment somehow... oh wait.
Well something has to fuel our inferiority complex
Typical for the Detroit rags.
I'm also sick and tired of hearing about how wonderful and great Michigan's football recruiting classes are. If they are so awesome, then Michigan is consistently the most underachieving football program in America.
No program rides more on undeserved reputation than scUM.
Is anyone sick of that, btw?
I am so outraged...
Typical. Since they're so concerned about page views, I double check to see where articles are located -- under MSU or UM -- before I click. They both (Freep & DetNews) post articles in both categories, but "list" them only under UM.
Thank you, Denicos.
I'm blaming this on Bob Sakimano.
They're called story tags. The article likely adds/discusses MSU as well and shows up on both pages (meaning UM also).
It's two fold. Obviously the rags cater to the um fan base due to their size and "tradition" and it seems like there are times where they are trolling MSU. But at the same time it seems like our fan base is so hyper conscious about anything negative that it makes even small details seem like it's time for panic mode.
And yet, somehow, the page hit always seems to land on scUM's side. Always.
I look at it another way: scUM has a built-in advantage in terms of proximity to Detroit. They don't need the additional benefit of having Spartan page views counted toward their portion of the site.
The Blue Wall just wants a sheen of justification for their all-scUM, all-the-time attitude, and this is how they do it: "MSU doesn't sell papers/page views, scUM does." Right. Gotcha.
And screw your scUM page views. I'll hit every fucking article in the Spartan section, tagged as a Spartan story, instead.
Get a grip.
Actually this is mathematically true. I don't remember when, but some time ago someone posted a list on here of the most overrated and underrated teams based on preseason and final polls.
Scum was the most overrated during the preseason along with ND and some others. MSU was one of the most underrated.
It's 2013. This "proximity to Detroit" doesn't fly anymore. Most of these reporters don't move 2 feet from their computer & phone to write articles anymore. Both papers cover uofFm recruiting every single day and will be headlined more than any other MSU sports story.
Shut the fuck up.
All those great recruiting classes leading to so many 4 loss seasons in whore town
i only care about spartans --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqsAJQc-NCY
Here's one article:
Michigan is high on the list of overrated. So is the Big Ten
Here is the complete list of teams from most overrated to most underrated. The number next to the team name represents how many spots the team is overrated (represented with a negative number) or how many spots the team is underrated (represented with a positive number).
Florida State: -77
Notre Dame: -64
Florida: -39 (while Florida is overrated, they are the only team in 20 years that has both an average preseason top 10 ranking, 7.30, and an average top 10 final ranking, 9.25. That’s Florida; overrated, but really, really, really good.)
Texas A&M: -36
Ohio State: -20
West Virginia: -18
North Carolina: -7
Oklahoma State: -7
South Florida: -7
(Every team below this line is considered underrated)
Iowa State: 1
Arizona State: 3
Bowling Green: 3
Central Michigan: 3
Fresno State: 5
Penn State: 6
Wake Forest: 7
Mississippi State: 8
Michigan State: 9
South Carolina: 11
Southern Miss: 11
Georgia Tech: 13
Air Force: 14
Colorado State: 15
Miami (OH): 16
East Carolina: 17
Texas Tech: 20
Oregon State: 21
Virginia Tech: 22
NC State: 23
Kansas State: 45
Boston College: 48
Washington State: 67
Boise State: 71
I figured that Utah, TCU, and Boise State would be underrated, but I had no idea that Washington State and Oregon would be so grossly underrated. Especially Oregon, you would think that all of that hype would mean that they would be underrated. You’d think that, and you’d be wrong.
Also, the weirdest underrated team has to be Alabama. I suppose it sense when you look at the post-Gene Stallings, pre-Nick Saban Crimson Tide. My guess is that Alabama will not be underrated even once in the next five years, not with Saban’s coaching ability and the talent that he brings in.
I took a closer look at the numbers just because I was curious about a few trivial things, such as:
What preseason No. 1 fell the furthest in the rankings? Answer: Penn State in 1997 was No. 16 in the final poll.
What final No. 1 team climbed the highest to reach that peak? Answer: Oklahoma in 2000, climbed from a preseason ranking of No. 19 (the others who made long strides, e.g. from out of the top 10, Michigan in 1997 from No. 14 to No. 1 and Ohio State in 2002 from No. 13 to No. 1)
What non-No. 1 team fell the furthest in the rankings? Answer: Three-way tie, Alabama in 2000, Tennessee in 2005, and Oklahoma in 2009 were all preseason No. 3 and fell out of the top 25 altogether.
What team climbed the highest in the rankings after being unranked in the preseason? Answer: Utah in 2008 climbed to No. 2
Here is a compilation of the best and worst… Best Climbs
1991: Cal unranked to No. 8
1993: Auburn unranked to No. 4
1997: UCLA unranked to No. 5
1999: Michigan State unranked to No. 7
2000: Oregon unranked to No. 7
2002: Kansas State unranked to No. 7
2002: Kansas State unranked to No. 7
2002: Iowa unranked to No. 8
2003: Washington State unranked to No. 9
2004: Louisville unranked to No. 6
2005: West Virginia unranked to No. 5
2004: Penn State unranked to No. 3
2005: Alabama unranked to No. 8
2006: Wisconsin unranked to No. 7
2006: Boise State unranked to No. 5
2007: Missouri unranked to No. 4
2008: TCU unranked to No. 7
2008: Utah unranked to No. 2
2009: Cincinnati unranked to No. 8
1998: Arizona State No. 8 to unranked
1999: Arizona No. 4 to unranked
2000: Alabama No. 3 to unranked
2002: Nebraska No. 10 to unranked
2002: Washington No. 9 to unranked
2002: Tennessee No. 5 to unranked
2002: Florida No. 6 to unranked [note: what the hell was going on in 2002?]
2003: Virginia Tech No. 9 to unranked
2003: Auburn No. 6 to unranked
2004: West Virginia No. 10 to unranked
2004: Michigan No. 4 to unranked
2005: Tennessee No. 3 to unranked
2008: Clemson No. 9 to unranked
2008: LSU No. 7 to unranked
2008: Auburn No. 10 to unranked
2009: Oklahoma No. 3 to unranked
Also, I know how much people love conference debates, so let’s take a look at the overrated and underrated numbers for the BCS conferences plus the Mountain West and WAC (keep in mind that I realize that conference realignments have happened over the years, especially in the Big East and ACC; I’ve calculated these numbers based on the teams’ current conference affiliation):
Most Overrated Conferences
Big 12: -116
Big Ten: -26
Pac 10: -13
Most Underrated Conferences
Mountain West: 163
Big East: 18
So there you have it, fun with the past and with numbers to give you an objective non-biased way to view teams as over- or under- rated. Now you can go forth with confidence (and facts) and tell everyone you know that Florida State is the most overrated college football program in the last 20 years… and be right about it.
What Is the Most Overrated College Football Program in the Country?
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