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Wait, did Vlad really not attend MSU? I don't dispute the message of this thread, but if this is true, it explains so much.
Hey everyone, UM went to the FF. Lets have a lovefest!!!!!!
Sorry, but UM is a school full of arrogant assholes. Remember when their football coaches - past and present - came to EL for a BB game so they could rub what they thought was going to be a win in the MSU's face? Screw that school. UM will never get a compliment from me. In fact, I hate that it is even called the University of Michigan considering it thumbs its nose at the values often associated with this state.
Who cares? We are a quidditch school anyway.
(Did I spell that right?)
If I were you I'd prepare myself for the latter.
"I love March!" - Tom Izzo
Yes, for the most part I feel like the main issue is we need more shooters, and guys who have more overall offensive skill. Seems like we get a lot of guys who are raw--Dawson, Nix, Gauna, to name a few on this year's team. Even Payne was pretty raw out of HS. Appling's shot just went in the crapper this year after a good start.
I love the defense and rebounding foundation of the program, but at some point you have to score some points, and do it consistently.
This post was edited by Hematoma 13 months ago
Its five o'clock somewhere.
I agree with the football analogy; however, the only thing that concerns me is we beat them when RR took the program to the lowest it's ever been and they're doing with Izzo still here. But everything goes in cycles, they will be up for a while and then they'll go back down. Hell, I think once Izzo leaves, we are going to go through some years in the shitter. I mean, a lot of programs take a huge drop off once their HOF coach leaves...look at Indiana with Knight and NC with Dean Smith. It all goes in cycles, let's just enjoy the ride while it lasts!
Exactly. You aren't going to beat the thoroughbred programs like Duke, Louisville, UNC, etc. in the NCAA tournament scoring just 61 points. Along with drawing the toughest region this time, my biggest fears were realized against Duke when we just couldn't keep up with their shooters offensively. You need great defense and rebounding to have a chance to win a championship, but when you can't consistently score more often than not your great defense and rebounding will get offset.
Sort of like you guys with your football B1G title right?
or at least more than once every 20 years?
Yeah, but you might beat VCU, need a miracle against Kansas, and beat Florida.
Have the best record in the league in hoop over 4 years, like MSU football did and come talk to me, assbag.
Yup...all very beatable teams...especially when they help you by beating themselves.
They have finally reached Wichita State's level. Congrats.
Dominating Press Conferences Since 2007
I still argue that UM being good only helps MSU. We were at our best when we had OSU, Illinois and Indiana to push us. When the rest of the B1G sucked, we had our hardest time in the tourney.
MSU got screwed this year.
#1 Appling was shooting over 50% and blew out his shoulder (38% after).
#2 Trice lost his entire season to get better
#3 Dawson was coming off his injury and ran out of gas
#4 Harris battled all year with shoulder injuries
All those things had direct impacts on our offense but had very little to do with our offense. That's the reason why defense is always more important than offense. Defense is ALWAYS there, where offense is only there when every is healthy.
We'll be in great shape next year.
You're constantly bashing a program that just went to the Sweet Sixteen - which is precisely an average season for MSU - and applauding a program that has now done once in the past couple of decades what Izzo has done six times.
If you're trying to say that Michigan basketball is superior or even equal to MSU basketball, the facts aren't on your side. Could you please explain the dubious thrill you seem to get from spreading bullshit about the team you claim to root for?
Does this rule apply for football?
He didn't attend MSU.
That should tell you what you need to know.
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Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
You guys are hilarious sometimes. Your program is the gold standard, no matter what happens this year. Michigan has had ONE good year in 20 years now, MSU pretty much has one every year. It is great to be a Mich fan this year, but there is still a long way to go for Michigan to make any statements about being better than MSU in hoops.
In fact, I don't get the insecurity. You have a HOF coach, one of a few teams to win more than one National Title, repeated Final Fours and Big 10 Titles, yet a one year run by Michigan and for most (not all, but most) of you and the sky is falling
Again, IMO (not that anybody cares here about my opinion), Michigan has to do things like this for about 6-8 more years to start any sort of talk.
I really think that both teams can be top 10 teams together, both have great facilities, great fanbases (granted, Michigan's is a Johnny came lately one, but i for one have had season tickets for 35 + years), one HOF coach, and one who is doing okay in Ann Arbor, and both can recruit nationally, but at the very least, in the midwest where there is a TON of talent.
I think both teams (again, Michigan needs to prove it in future seasons) will be good for the foreseeable future.
99% of tRCMB members agree with you. The other 1% are trolls and/or idiots. Notice no one is agreeing with the OP.
MSU fans are not worried that UM has usurped the throne. The angst over UM in the Final Four is based on the annoyance or expected annoyance of UM fans claiming that they are now the better overall program.
Yea and we lost Kearney. That really hurt us. Those injuries add up fast, I think Brandon would have given us some relief.
That's the thing about basketball--you gotta earn it, and UM did. They played the #1 seed and the #3 seed this weekend. Kansas got the big lead and thought they could sleepwalk through the rest of the game. Burke showed why he is rated so high--hit a couple of amazing shots.
Then, Florida got destroyed.
Good for UM, they showed up when they had to.
What does this have to do with our program?
Plus one. Precisely. Michigan has peaked at the right time. Cannot take that away. Good for them. But I still remain insanely proud of MSU's past and present, and confident for our future. The chicken littles that try to downplay Michigan's run right now due to fear that it will somehow be used to diminish our succeses need some serious confidence therapy. And those that do try to diminish MSU's success because of this years um tea have similar insecurities. Get over it. MSU will be back in the final four soon.
Spartans ...committed to bring Paul Bunyan home in 2013.
As a Michigan Fan, I think you are spot on. MSU is THE program, no matter if Michigan wins the title or not. One Year does not make a program, 15 years of sustained success does.
Is Michigan on the right path? Yes, i think so, but being on the right path and being the top dog are two different things. What I envision, and what the HOF'er Izzo has referenced multiple times, is both Mich and MSU being top 10 programs and our games turning into must see for the rest of the country.
I don't get why some of the MSU fanbase is so damn insecure, Izzo has built a powerhouse program, one that Michigan hopes to emulate in terms of success over the next decade.
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