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In so many words. What was interesting is that he also said the primary defender is allowed to have his feet in the circle, never knew that
There is a difference
They need to expand that arc out a foot or two. It would open up driving lanes and make defenders have to challenge shots instead of being able to just stand there and get rewarded for being in poor defensive position
A foot or two would be a lot. 6 inches would be enough
I would not allow help defenders to camp out and draw a charge. They are arguing about his heel, but he did not get into position on time. Too many refs are calling what they anticipate or think they see, rather than what they actually see.
This post was edited by The Doctor 13 months ago
hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.
And people wonder why scoring is down in that span...
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
My issue with the whole block charge thing is refs are focused more on positioning than anything. If they feel the defender has his feet set, they say automatic charge. They completely disregard the fact that the defender SHOULD have his feet set before the offensive player leaves the ground. On that Craft play, who cares about his feet and if they are above the arc or whatnot, the offensive player left his feet before Craft's feet were set, shouldve been a block based solely on that. Where do refs expect these offensive players to go when they leave their feet? Even when they adjust their bodies in the air they still call a charge, this whole rule needs to be overhauled and the arc underneath the rim has only made it worse.
You're assuming they are screwing up calls the same way each time, establishing a pattern that you can adapt to.
Too many NCAA officials are terrible in completely random, unadaptable ways that make you wonder whether they even can define for themselves the difference between, say, a block and a charge.
That's because they have the biggest impact like this call today did. That's a potential 4 pt lead for ISU if the call is made correctly. When bad calls are made earlier in the game, a team can work harder to overcome them. When a bad call is made in the final minute that erases a potential 3 pts off the score, a team can't overcome that if time doesn't allow it.
Bad calls are bad whenever they are, but they are potentially game-changing at the end of a game. We saw that today.
And how about changing the rule so if the ball is out of the shooter's hand before the contact, allowing the basket to count.
This would do two things.
1) reward the offensive player for actually scoring
2) encourage the defenders to do more than acting like a bowling pin. The risk reward has now swung too far to the defense, encouraging them to not try and block or impede the shot.
Yeah, we have seen that before, its called bogus pass interference in the endzone with seconds left in the game.
Also, if a defender arches his back before falling, then it is an automatic flop and the defender taking the "charge" should be assessed a foul. I bet the flopping would be decreased immensely.
Arching your back is not a natural defensive move when getting bumped into. It's all acting and the refs need to call that shit.
This post was edited by J T 13 months ago
Or blocking a player on the field
"If you're worried about Wolverine fans, just move to Pasadena. You'll never have to deal with 'em."
Euro influence...one guys like Ginobli/Divac came over here and started falling on every piece of contact and got rewarded...everyone then started to do it.
He's entertaining and he doesn't take himself too seriously. I don't know why people are getting so worked up over the things he says.
I don't totally disagree with you, I was mostly just reiterating Greg Anthony's point. But it's difficult to play the causation game. One could argue that the bad calls earlier in the game led to the score to be the way to then cause the end of game bad call to have that more of an impact. So while I agree, there's no time at the end of the game to make up for it, I still think the entire game of calls needs to at least be taken into account. That's why I think they need to expand the video replay rules for close penalties so that things throughout the game can be that much more definitive.
The call was not the reason Iowa State lost. The better team won by finishing strong. Finishing games is what separates talent from talented winners.
Yeah there were a lot of reasons Iowa State lost.....and that was one of them.
I hate to disagree but a last second shot won that game.
You mean nebulous platitudes don't win games?
Agreed. If the defensive player is set before the guy leaves the ground, it should be a charge. 90% of these though, the defender is undercutting the guy mid-air.
This particular play left the ref with a split second to make the call. I'm sure if he could have gone over and watched the slo-mo replay he might have changed it. Fans crack me up , getting multiple angles and replays makes everybody a great Referee.
1. OSU player fouled the shooter before craft slid under the shooter and made contact. 2. Crafts foot was over the line. 3. The ball was out of bounds on Thomas.
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