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actually kelly doesn't worry me.... because you could say that payne is the best "stretch 4" in the country at the moment..... the key with duke would be nix vs plumlee... and plumlee hasn't played well against a true big man in months.....
Wally Szcerbiak picked Gonzaga
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
This. Duke and Louisville in back to back games on the same weekend is brutal. Similar to 2005 run with Kentucky and Duke, but that kind of performance back to back is rare. We'll see, but I'm probably picking Louisville.
"People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.
Keep in mind, Izzo is ridiculously good in the second game of a weekend. Assuming we make it to a game against Louisville, we got a serious shot at winning.
Calmer than you are
8/9 CBS "experts" predict Louisville to win it all.
In a season where unpredictability was the norm, why do these guys all of a sudden think that a predictable outcome will come to be?
100% agree RP. While I started the thread, I disagree with most of the "experts'" picks. Look out for 2 big ten teams to possibly make it to the Final Four.
Yep. Not discounting that at all. He's the master of the turnaround. We've had some really good games against Louisville in the past so if we see them, that game would be no different. The games where we've come out on top though, it's usually because of great guard play to beat their defense.
Unfortunately, I don't think Appling is the kind of guard to lead us this year to a win over them. Our success in this tournament is very much tied to his performance and his inconsistency scares the hell out of me.
It depends on how you think Siva compares to Burke, Olidepo and Craft. Those are the only two to give him a lot of trouble this season. He actually did fairly well, was consistently good defensively, and in scoring or passing against non-All B1G caliber guards.
Is Siva at that level?
His bracket makes a lot of sense.
I'll be floored if we beat Louisville after having to take down Duke the game before.
How about how he did against Siva LAST YEAR when they fucking toyed with us?
This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind 13 months ago
Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.
I think so, yes. Appling's stat line from last year's matchup: 1 for 6, 4 TOs, 6 points.
15 TOs total for us last year in that game and a low of 44 points. I simply can't shake that ugly game.
We held Louisville to 38% shooting. Trouble was, we were 28%.
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Silver lining? Replacing Thorton/Wood with Harris/Dawson
Improvements on both
Wood was the leading scorer in last year's game. Figure on Harris equaling that performance (14 points) or slightly exceeding it (maybe as many as 18 pts.), but others definitely need to step up.
Draymond probably played one of his worst games ever (6 TOs), but was a beast on the boards. If Dawson can get it going again from inside scoring perspective and he and Payne replace Draymond's rebounding in that game, I think you're right though. I see Payne getting his and Nix doing a decent job (although shut down last year).
You guys, if we get there, we'd probably have to play Duke first before Louisville. I wish I could place myself on the plane of reality you are all on of the cakewalk to the great eight
What a piece of shit. Not a real Spartan.
True. No one is really discounting Duke that much, but Plumlee has struggled against good big men and we have 2 of them (Nix and Payne). Plus, Duke is cursed as a #2 seed. Hell, they may not get out of the 2nd round (or is it the third? Damn NCAA expansion).
Pretty sure it's for an out when they don't get it right. "Oh, but I picked them because they were ranked number 1 overall. Who wouldn't??" This is after a season in which the experts couldn't stop talking about the parity in the league and how crazy this tournament is going to be.
"This tournament is truly going to be madness. Oh my Final Four picks? Hmmm Louisville, Kansas, Indiana and, wait for it, Ohio State. I know it's a stretch not going with Gonzaga (the 1 seed), but like I said, madness this march!"
Outside of something completely insane, like advancing all 16 seeds, I don't think anyone's bracket makes more sense than anyone else's bracket.
That's my point. In a season of where the unpredictable is the norm, high highly doubt we'll see a predictable outcome.
As for a possible MSU-Louisville game this year:
It's not like Louisville is a sure thing to make it to the EE either. St. Louis, Missouri, Colorado State, Oklahoma State, Oregon, etc... If Lousiville can lose to VIllanova, they can lose to any of these teams.
Plus, remember, Pitino had a week to prep for MSU. He won't have that if he faces them this time around. Pitino's teams doesn't do that well in those "second game of the weekend" as people think. In 16 tournaments, he's lost in the round of 32 or elite 8, or NC Champ game: 7 times. Don't over look that. (Including MSU beating them in 2009 Elite 8 when they had a similarly hot team and a 1 seed going in.
Since my sarcasm detector works...
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I would much rather play them the second game of the weekend. I concur.
Wouldn't your argument mean we are more likely to play them since they are so good in those First/S16 games? Basically on the 8/9 opponent would have a shot then?
And Louisville will have to play a physical St. Louis team 2 days before as well. It's not like last year where Pitino has a week to prep for MSU. Last time the two teams met in the EE (2009) where Louisville was everyone's darling and incredibly hot going into the tournament. They played a 12 seeded Cinderella Arizona team a few days before. MSU played 3 seeded Kansas, the reigning national champion at that point, 2 days before.
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I think the 8/9's in the bracket do have a shot. Why not? If Louisville can lose to VIllanova, they can lose to Missouri or Colorado St. (who are probably both better than 'nova).
Shoot, Duke could lose to Creighton/Cincy in Philly too... and not even see us. We could lose to St. Mary's or Crieghton, Duke, etc... it's all possible this year.
I don't think MSU loses in the Palace. I don't think Stl Loses to New Mexico St,. I doubt Louisville loses in their first game to whomever, and I doubt Duke loses to Albany. But beyond that, I don't think other upsets are all that crazy this year.
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