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...dun dun dun. Wait. What?
Yeshiva University is making a strong push...
I am not sure if some of you are serious....
Right now, the "Catholic 7" or the new Big East will be:
Xavier, Butler, Creighton, St. Louis, Dayton make it a full 12 team league. Butler would be the only non-Catholic school, but they are private and very good academically. I don't think VCU is being considered all that strongly. They are a public school that doesn't have great academics, which I think at least matters to some degree.
I don't know that UDM was ever being seriously considered. Which team from above would you leave out in favor of UDM?
If, as some have suggested, UNC were to come to the B1G and start the dominoes falling, and then Duke was the team that the new Big East took, it would set up an absolutely hilarious scenario. Lets say the SEC then snags VTech and FSU, then the Big 12 snags Clemson, Miami, maybe an NCState and someone (not sure who at this point). Then, what would end up happening is the schools that spurned the Big East and caused the original conference to collapse, specifically Syracuse and BC, would be in a total begging situation. The Big East would not really need them to carry the NYC market, and the Big Ten wouldn't take them (Private school, not an AAU member). They could be relegated to a realigned Horizon league or the MAC or something similar.
I give him a break because he's old.
What about them?
While they are traditional rivals of many of those teams...Butler, Xavier, Dayton, Marquette, etc...U of Detroit is in a tough spot right now...
...they don't currently have an Athletic Director.
Traditionally, when Dayton and Detroit were playing each other frequently as rivals and before the merger with Mercy, Dayton and Detroit agreed with each other to be abbreviated as: "UD" = Dayton "U of D" = Detroit.
How about UDM in place of Creighton. It's a long way from Omaha to the east coast, plus they are play in a great basketball conference, the Missouri Valley. If you think about the new Big East, UDM would be a great fit. Especially with TV eyes.
Georgetown- Washington, DC
St. Johns - NY
DePaul - Chicago
Marquette - Milwaukee
Villanova - Philadelphia
Providence - ?
Seton Hall - Philly/NY split
Xavier - Cincinnati
Dayton - Dayton/Cincinnati
Butler - Indy
Fight for the only colors, Green and White!
Wish UDM was in this league, they were the ones preventing Oakland from joining the Horizon League
How is Seton Hall a NYC/Philly Split? Its in Newark, which one can see across the river from Manhattan. Its a solid 3 hours drive from Philly. That'd be like saying Wayne State delivers Detroit and Cleveland.
Edit: You aren't sure what market a school named Providence delivers? I shouldn't have bothered to respond.
This post was edited by Binford4State 17 months ago
With a basketball league, I really do think it's the more the merrier. Especially when UDM would add the entire state of Michigan (if they ever start a TV network).
laconophilia is everywhere...
UofD couldn't deliver the 6 Mile/Livernois tv market, let alone the state of Michigan
It's not as much about interest as it is location. UDM would rep Detroit, and if you're putting the network on Detroit packages, you're putting it on statewide.
Can't believe how much lobbying is going on for UDM in this thread Get a grip, people. If these teams wanted markets they would have stayed with Tulane, Houston, SMU, Memphis and Central Florida. They want substance and Creighton > Detroit. Not to mention, Omaha has over 400,000 people. It's not a small place.
This post was edited by Lunchables 17 months ago
No one saying that Creighton isn't better now. But a few can recall the years Detroit had teams loaded with future NBA players. And its like the B1G interest in Rutgers. They aren't much right now, but they are in a major metro area, not an oasis in the Nebraska plains.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by WBill19542 17 months ago
As I said, if markets mattered to these Catholic 7 teams they would have stayed with Tulane (New Orleans), Houston, SMU (Dallas/Fort Worth), Memphis and Central Florida (Orlando) as those schools were coming into the Big East. They don't really give a rip about markets if they were eagerly bailing from those schools/market opportunitie$.
Detroit is actually a pretty good team with some talented players right now. Probably the best team they've had since little Phillips was jacking up 3's from half court.
If they make the Tournament, and they may do that, I wouldn't want to be the poor 3 or 4 seed that has to play them in the first round.
Why they have no shot in the conference realignment is that their Athletic Department has no voice, no leadership, or direction right now. Which is too bad, because this potential "Catholic Mega Conference" was Bob Calihan's idea in the first place back in the 60's which partially lead to the formation of the MCC in the 70's which has been perverted into today's Horizon League.
At one time the MCC in the late 80's was:
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