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And how many of those went for TDs? I can tell you for a fact that none of Bell's did, and at least 1 of Ringers did (the long one vs. UM in the Big House).
This post was edited by MalibuMan 18 months ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Since Ringer had 22 TDs to Bell's 12, I'm thinking they probably stop counting the yards when you get to the endzone.
Ringer played w/ a passing attack, Bell didn't. Ringer also played w/ a better OC. When NU knows what you're going to do and stops you 3 times inside the 5, in Spartan Stadium, you have a terrible O.
Ringer had 18 TD's of 10 yards or less in 2008, the other 4 were 11, 14, 21 and 64 yards.
Bell had 10 TD's of 10 yards or less in 2012, the other 2 being 11 and 14 yards.
I don't think Bell's lack of speed or Ringer's extra speed (however you want to word it) had as much of an effect on the overall scoring as you do.
Javon Ringer had 2 runs of 60 or more yards in 2008.
Le'Veon Bell had 0 runs of 41 or more yards in 2012.
That is terrible logic. Why can't the offense put a game away by putting up additional points?
MSU threw for more YPG in '12 than they did in '08, with 4 more TDs thrown in '12 than in '08. Same # of INTs by the starter (9, Cook threw 1 but that was in garbage time vs. CMU).
I know, right?
How many stars was he again?
Dantonio has given all of us plenty of reasons to doubt his abilities after last season's staff-wide meltdowns.
No matter how you cut it, this past year was on him. If it was Roushar, that's on him. If Roushar didn't have anything to work with because nobody had any experience, that's on him.
Dantonio has been the best thing to happen to this program in 40 years, but this past season really, REALLY gave me concern for the years ahead.
Have you ever posted in a thread not arguing with someone?
Now with a PhD in Applied Llama Physics...
We don't get enough 4 stars say the chickenlittles but we've had more 3's have an impact than 4's I could give many examples of 4 stars that didn't work out for one reason or another. The difference between a high 3 star and a low to mid 4 is not very big but because of the stars attached to said recruits mean a whole lot more.
We'd all love a ton of 5's but it's not realistic unless you are the Alabama's or USC's of college football which we're not we can still can challenge for Big 10 titles with the recruiting classes we land but unless we are consistently battling for them over time we're going landed what we usually land in terms of recruits.
That's reality and the posters here that suddenly expected 4's and 5's to be banging on our door after just two 10+ wins seasons weren't being very realistic considering how mediocre our program had been before coach D came to MSU.
They can but by how much should a team have to outscore the opponent before it's a a safe win? It makes no sense to blame the offensive who already outscored the opposition for losing the game when the defense couldn't make a stop in crunch time.
You didn't counter about a better OC though, did you forget?
I still don't get comparing year 1, 2 or 3 vs. year 6.
This post was edited by spartan80 18 months ago
Better OC is pretty subjective; no one thought Treadwell was great until 2010. Roushar put up better #s in '11, FWIW.
Year 2 gets compared to Year 6 because you have similar circumstances; new WRs/1 workhorse back/OL issues, etc. Actually, the '08 OL was healthier.
They also get compared because they're the 2 worst offensive teams under MD. 2012 was worse.
Freaking hairshirt doomsdayers.
youngblood96/viggo martyr/jargon: tRCMB's answer to Vidkun Quisling and Fred Phelps.
Let's look at 1 year over the other 5! Woo! Fun!
"If you're worried about Wolverine fans, just move to Pasadena. You'll never have to deal with 'em."
Scouting quarterbacks is one of the hardest things to do scouting wise in professional sports. That's why you see so many flops in the NFL. If I had a formula that could project which QBs would be awesome and which would be flops, I could make a lot of money with an NFL team. But it's so unpredictable because there are so many variables that go into what makes a good quarterback.
If you are going to be concerned about our future because Dantonio struck out with recruiting Maxwell, then you need to breathe a little bit easier. I wouldn't be worried about the program just because one quarterback didn't pan out. If Maxwell wins the job next year, struggles again, and Dantonio doesn't make a change, then I would be concerned.
Legitimate question, have you ever thought about becoming a shady booster for our football team? You have the money and the passion
I can't even understand you, old man. WTF is a fanboy? Seek their banning? You shitting me?
Time for a nap.
Is this the only thing you do on the board? A one-trick pony eh?
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Everytime I buy a lotto ticket, I always think about how I'd become a shady booster if I ever won.
Honestly, if Tanner can't even reach into his substantial bank account to give a few 5 star recruits some cash, why is he complaining?
Bless you sir
Plenty of 4 and 5 stars? How many 5 stars did we have? I'll save you from listing all the 2 and 3 stars that produced...Rocky already did that.
The success we had with 2 seasons with 11 wins each had NOTHING to do with winning recruiting battles in the years prior in the manner that you think directly correlates to winning.
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