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Basketball IQ is more instinct than classroom taught knowledge and AP just doesn't have that high a level of basketball instinct. But I believe Costello does and while he doesn't have Adreian's god-given athleticism, he's far more athletic than someone like Suton who turned into a great player under Izzo. I see Costello's upside somewhere between Goran and Paul Davis but hopefully with his lunchpale aggressiveness, above average athleticism, lengthy wingspan and strong IQ, Matt will be able to blend some of the strengths of both players while minimizing their weaknesses. If that happens and he's able to put on 15-20 lbs of muscle, his potential could definitely exceed both.
This post was edited by JackTa1kThai 16 months ago
Gauna is starting to show some promise, but I'm afraid he might be a robot.
hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.
You got a little carried away? NO, say it aint so.
I see upside before anyone and I told you and mag that Matt sh be starting.
I feel like Albert Brooks in Broadcast News. It goes from my brain to the msg board and 3 weeks later it comes back to me without any credit. I need a pipeline to Izzo.
Stay tuned for more of the future
Late blooming bigs is an Izzo specialty.
Unless you are Gray, Herzog, Ibok, Rowley, or Andreas.
The only one ranked was Gray and he didnt have a head for the game.
The others were projects.
How about Suton or Naymick who had a great senior yr despite shoulder surgeries or Green .
IZ has not gotten top 30 big men since Gray and Davis
Rowley was a 4 star. Payne was top 30. I love everything about our program. I was just playing devil's advocate.
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
Payne, you know was injured early on and his development was hampered.
Plus , he was top 30 based on athletic ability not skill i.e. he was raw. The injury delayed his skill development but he is doing well now , in his third yr.
Rowley just didnt have the lateral quickness and it couldnt be taught. I dont recall him being chased by many big time programs, just us and OSU. He also started playing bb late
OH,Lorbek was real good but got swayed to return to Europe. Add him to the plus list
Costello is gonna be a stud. Those boys from the Saginaw Valley League are tough as shit and just know how to play. Izzo has had his most successful seasons when he's had SVL kids on the team.
If Payne could play like he plays against Sullinger every game he'd be a POY candidate. Has that chip from being ranked lower I guess. Needs to play everyone like that.
Izzo loves Costello and says one reason he has so much confidence he will be good is that unlike many big men he loves the game and puts time in.
Music to my ears. MSU has has a string of bigs who haven't. Just look at guys marquise gray and even Paul Davis. As good as Paul Davis was he laments the effort he put in at MSU and has come back to speak to the players and warn them against making the same mistake. He was a five star and didnt improve a lot during his time at MSU.
Then you have guys like nix and herzog who have struggled with conditioning.
Guys like naymick, ibok, and suton I think did the best they could with limited talent (although iboks talent was even more limited).
Payne has a chance to be great but still needs to get a little stronger and and play more mean. I have noticed that nix and Payne both play soft at times.
Costello has a chance to play like Suton but he is more athletic so he has a slightly higher ceiling.
This post was edited by xwing 16 months ago
I personally really like how Payne has been playing this year. He hasn't been lighting it up stats wise (although these are easily the best numbers of his career), but he has done very well with the opportunities he's being presented with. He's rebounding tenaciously and playing hard on D; the dude is exhausted at the end of his "shift"; you know he's giving it his all for Izzo.
And on offense, I wish he'd get the ball more often in the post. That one handed turn around shotput kind of thing is very difficult to stop with how high Payne can get up there. And his jumper looks pretty damn smooth actually; plus, I think he's shooting very well from the line too.
I think he's shooting like 91% from the line that's ridiculous
Yep he is playing well he reminds me a lot of JaJuan Johnson.
It is scary. Hopefully he will keep improving.
He's a bit wider and bigger than JaJuan was, but that's a good comparison. If Payne can add a dribble drive to his game where he can take bigger, slower players to the basket from the top of the key (think he did it once in the game before Tuskegee), I think he has a real shot at being drafted in the 1st round. Being a late bloomer will work against him, but the tools are there.
Hopefully he can become a 10 pt 5 rebound guy like Garrick Sherman.
Whats wrong with Payne's head?
I think it is a question of "when" he gets back into playing shape rather than "if".
Some good Nix quotes about Costello in this morning's Freep article:
Didn't catch the game last night. Why didn't Costello play?
I am gravely disappointed. Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war.
His best asset is his D against teams with good bigs. That's not Bowling Green. Then, MSU didn't get a big enough lead to get him in the game late. I think we'll start seeing more of him from in the next few games, but then again Gauna had probably his best stint last night, so who knows...
Yes, the only 4-5 who I thought had a poor game yesterday was Nix.
Do you have a link or citation for your claim that PD came to speak to the team about how he regrets not putting in more of an effort?
I never thought his drive was an issue. I think he is one of the most underrated players of the Izzo era.
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