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So why the fuck are you still arguing that money has something to do with the lions not taking Warmack or Cooper at five? (or the notion of any guard going top ten)
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Absolutely need an OT. Stafford is the franchise qb and Johnson is the best WR in the league. We just signed an RB in free agency. Our good players are at offensive skill positions. If they can't block for them, then our star players will be neutralized
If the Jags dont take an OT, they need to trade with Oakland to get Joekel or Fisher. Whoever KC doesnt draft. These guys look like franchise OTs. Yes we will give up picks, and there will be holes on defense. But even a good defensive draft can't turn our defense from abysmal to decent. The Lions are a good offensive line away from having an unstoppable offense
If both offensive tackles are gone: Milliner
If both offensive tackles and Millner are gone: Trade down.
Chances this happends: 0% the franchise is full of idiots. This draft is deeper in the 2-4 rounds.
This post was edited by AllSloppyNoJoe 12 months ago
Can I ask how Fisher ended up at CMU? Did we ever recruit him... or were there any issues i.e academics that prevented him? did the big boys in the Big Ten just Whiff?
Check out last Sundays article on him in the Free Press. Explains it all.
Whiff. Why didn't the big boys recruit Joe Staley? CMU is putting their 2nd Tackle in the 1st round in the past 6 years.
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Nice read. Wonder if he camped at MSU.
Looking back at how Eric Fisher, Luke Joeckel, Dion Jordan, Geno Smith, Sharrif Floyd and other likely first-round 2013 NFL draft picks ranked as recruits.
I like OT Lane Johnson and OG Chance Warmack as much as Joeckel/Fisher. Johnson is athletic and Warmack is the best guard prospect in years.
This is one of those years that the Lions really can't screw up. Lots of great options at #5.
somebody read something on the internets a long time ago and hasn't forgotten it.
JUCO is a common theme for a few first rounders.
I think Joe Staley was recruited as TE. Then he got massive at CMU. I know some people form Rockford who were good freinds with him.
I really hope that the Lions try to make a move... Joeckel and Fisher are the best by a long shot. If you miss on those two just move down.
Saying the Lions really can't screw up is like saying Amy Winehouse was above the influence.
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So draft at a position where we have 2 starters already in place who are both capable of playing well? DE and the OL are bigger needs than CB, and we can draft an instant starter at either position. Milliner could overtake Bentley, or not. Either OG or the DEs would almost certainly be the season opener starter.
Hey, look, it's a millen joke, so funny yet true....4 years ago. Did you know Matt Trannon played two sports in college? True story.
Reiff is very versatile and can play LT, RT or RG. The goal would be to solidify the LT position with a true LT (Fisher or Johnson) and slide Reiff to RG. Start Fox at RT and the line is set. If MM doesn't draft an OL early, you basically pencil in Bill Nagy at RG. You can never have enough young talent on the OL, and having guys who can play multiple positions is a huge bonus.
I still like trading back to 6-9 and grabbing Warmack or Cooper. At that point, its up to the front office to determine whether they want a big road grader in Warmack or an athletic guy in space with Cooper, who can also play center after Raiola is gone.
Get that extra 3rd round pick via the trade, and trade that 3rd rounder, along with our 2nd, to grab Austin out of WVU. Can you imagine lining up Calvin, Reggie Bush, Austin and Burleson, with a young line that can block?
I'd kinda like to see them grab the Jones kid out of Bama that played basically all positions on the Oline. Havent looked to see if he's projected in R2 or lower, but i'd take him over Raiola all day.
While I agree that it would be nice to trade back and pick up one of the guards and an extra pick, the general concensus is that Reiff isn't a suitable LT. This is a huge issue that needs to be addressed if one of Fisher or Joekel don't fall (or Johnson if the Lion's like him). Which leads to this question - do you think the Lions have contacted the Chiefs about Albert? I don't even know if they could find the cap space, but depending on how the draft falls tonight it'll be interesting to see where he goes. I've read that they've been in discussions with other teams besides the Dolphins.
I have thought about this too, can we possibly take him in the 2nd or 3rd and slot him at LT? I know he has primarily played C and OG but I like his abilities because he's played all three positions on the OL.
Put Fox/Reiff at LT and move Barrett to RG or RT. Lots of options to consider.
This post was edited by Stan Sitwell 12 months ago
A man's gotta eat!
Fisher or Milliner. Or trade down.
This Ansah thing is really alarming. He did nothing for 2 years and had an okay season last year while only managing 4.5 sacks in a weak conference. Everything you hear about him is based on potential but the Lions need productivity from the position immediately. If the Lions were ever going to draft on need at the DE position, they should have a couple of years ago when the draft was stacked with DE's like Watt, Quinn and Kerrigan.
This draft is so weak at the top.
I agree with this post 100%
I am toally buying in on Ansah, but I can't blame anbody for not buying in
Well, here are my thoughts regarding Ansah.
I don't think getting a defensive end so high in THIS YEAR'S DRAFT is intelligent. If the position were lacking depth, I would be more on board with Ansah.
It's not a knock on Ansah but the drop off on OL/OG talent from the 1st round to the 2nd round is far greater than the drop off for defensive ends.
Right. If you can get a guy like Okafor in round 2, why use a first round pick on Ansah?
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