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Anybody i know who astually goes by what NFL scouts say has Yokel number 1 and Jones much further down and where is Ansah. I am hearing he is the best DE in the draft.
Boykin was never an elite corner but he was a playmaker. That said, I am 99% sure that if Mayhew had picked him, everyone would have thrown another shitstorm about how Detroit drafts injury-prone players.
Yes, the eagles CBs are something to be jealous of. And Bentley was a great pick, just got injured, and the kid for ALbion they are still high on.
They are all great picks until they step on the field. How many of Mayhew's picks outside of the 1st round can be considered great? As far as Boykin, he can also return punts and kicks. He had over a 1,000 kickoff return yards so he could of made Stefan Logan expendable and added another player to the roster. There are a lot of Mayhew slappies on this board but he is on the hot seat this year and he better come through or he will be gone.
This post was edited by bigwali 17 months ago
I was literally screaming at the tv for them to pick Boykin in the 3d.Same with Janoeus Jenkins in Rd2.
I'm thinking more and more than Philadelphia might snag Milliner at #4. At that point, if we can't trade down, I would take Eric Fisher. Great OT and with Reiff will solidify the line for years.
I agree. I don't really like any of these DE's. They're either too small (Mingo and Jordan), too raw (Ansah), or too blah (Werner) to take with a top 5 pick. All thing beings equal, my preference would be the following:
1. Joeckel (but KC's pretty much a lock to take him)
2. Milliner (safe pick city)
3. Fisher (safe and solid)
I like that order. Although I think Aviril is going to be gone and DE is going to be a glaring hole next year. I can see one of the three DE's (Ansah, Jordan, Mingo) being a stud that we are going to wish we had drafted. Problem is the other two will probably be busts and I have no idea who is going to fall into each group. So, its probably best to draft Milliner or Fisher because they are pretty safe (can't see Joeckel making it to us).
Fisher might be just as good as Joeckel. He had a great Senior Bowl and combine.
DE is pretty deep in this draft, and there's no elite prospects. Ansah has elite athleticism and the Lions seem sold on him but he's still a project at this point.
2nd round DE wouldn't be a bad idea.
Detroit could probably go without drafting any corners....they took 3 last year. Green looked okay, Bentley looked good pre-injury and coaches seem very high on Greenwood.
DE and S are big needs imo but if an elite LT falls to you, you take it.
Yep, Fisher could be a 10 year All Pro tackle which don't come around very often. I say go for offense to protect Stafford and pick up a CB & DE in later rounds.
Latest from Walter Football:
1st) Ziggy Ansah DE
2nd) Justin Pugh OT/G
3rd) David Amerson CB
4th) Cobi Hamilton WR
5th) Dion Sims TE
6th) Devonte Holloman OLB
I'm okay with these picks, if they fall as is. Definitely DE, OT and CB should be the top 3 rounds. Not too sure about Ansah at that spot because he is a project player but might high risk high reward situation.
A man's gotta eat!
Womack was just in a few days ago, supposedly blew them away.
I'm still praying Fisher is there. Sooooo doubt it will happen, but if it does, I think they take him in a New York second over Womack.
Thank you, Denicos.
Last I heard, on some boards Fisher jumped to the top OT. Haven't seen a single board where he slides down to Det.
And BTW, I am betting heavily that Det makes some trades in this draft, as they have a bunch of picks to work with (but can't trade the 2 conditional picks by rule). We've seen in the past that when Det has picks, they aren't afraid to move around. Seriously doubt there is any chance of that with the #5 pick, but in other places, we'll see.
you guys talking about Chance Warmack? I dunno, 5th overall is too high for a guard IMO. I'm with SpartaninNH...Fisher or Joeckel would be ideal but...looks like they won't be there. KC is supposedly going to take Fisher #1 overall...or JOeckel and the Eagles need help at Tackle too....so.....I really think they should trade back to 13ish, and that could get them NICE pick in return....should be a late 1st or early 2nd rounder I believe, although it would be in NEXT year's draft most likely. THEN draft a very good guard like Warmack or Cooper at 13. That's what I would try to do if Joeckel and Fisher are gone. (last week on ESPN radio in GR (96.1) they said Lions could take Lane Johnson as high as 5...but I think it's a smoke screen to try and trade down, I really do. Johnson isn't that good to justify going at 5 overall...he's an underwear olympics winner at this point and no more)
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I love the way these guys think. They all have us getting either Fisher or Joeckel.
I'm doubtful they both get past Philly (stinkin' 4th pick ), but, hey.....
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I think you mean, Chance WARMACK, right?
The Lions will host several other potential first-round picks the next two weeks, including Oregon defensive end Dion Jordan and West Virginia receiver Tavon Austin next week. Michigan State defensive Will Gholston visits later this week.
Listen folks, I know some of you are thinking either Luke Joeckel/Eric Fisher or defense.
What you need to understand is Lane Johnson is not chopped liver. He's raw but is a former quarterback, tight-end, and has the potential to be BETTER than Joeckel AND Fisher.
I thought Scouts Inc.'s Steve Muench brought up an interesting suggestion during our video discussion Wednesday, one that went against conventional wi
As I said above, he's an underwear olympics winner at this point. BUT, the NFL drafts alot on potential too...and they also draft on precedant. Joe Staley was a tight end once upon a time too and now he's a MF'er of a LT with the Niners.
So I won't say for sure it won't happen PPTPW......he's a helluva athlete but just isn't as polished as Fisher or Joeckel is right now according to the 'experts'. Then again, his ceiling just might be higher.
I'd rather Det take the best DL available if both the OTs are gone than reach, as DL is a huge position of need, and Det does have 2 guys who are capable OTs right now in Fox & last year's pick. They could then pick up a quality OG in a later round, which would still make the line better.
I mean, the draft is a crap shoot.
I like Lane Johnson as an alternative because he has a more diverse understanding of what the quarterback position needs in terms of protection because he used to be one. Not only that, he used to be a tight end and has an appreciation for what receivers need in terms of time, how to better identify and gauge when to pick up strange blitzes; TE's have a lot of option routes based off whether a defender blitzes (stay and protect) or drops in coverage (run a route.)
Not only that, almost everyone entering the NFL not named JaMarcus Russell adds muscle and gets in better shape because it becomes a full time job and they have access to some of the best nutritionists and trainers in the country.
Also, why would someone downvote me for linking a Chance Warmack article? All I'm doing is asking a question/providing info.
This post was edited by PPTPW51983 15 months ago
dunno on the downvote...that's weak...I got your back with a +1 to make up for it PPTPW....I agree on Warmack btw: total BEAST. However, as I posted above he can be had a little lower in first by trading down. Very rare for guards to go top 10...can't remember the last one who did. Here is Warmack film against ND and UGA...feast your eyes:
.....that big SOB gets to the second level in a HURRY. That ND footage is sublime....they got gang banged HARD
I would be ok with that if we pick up someone like Barrett Jones (OL/C/G) in the 2nd.
That said, we could draft Will Gholston in the later rounds.
personally, I'm just as worried for Will and Dion as I was for Baker last year. They are gonna SLIDE I'm afraid...hope I'm wrong. LB is SOLID.....few teams pretty enamored with him and rightfully so.
Yeah, Warmack is a beast.
Honestly, I'll be very happy if the Lions select OL/DE in either of the first two rounds and a WR/DB in the 3rd and 4th.
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