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Two thirds correct, but that's a lot better than most.
ding, ding, ding, ding............
we have a winner
As for Bell, see USAToday article above linked in another post. Also, I'm thinking there was a more direct statement by the high school coach about Bell's work habits in practice cooling OSU to recruiting him. I don't have that issue any longer.
In fact, Miami, SCum, and others lost interest in Sims for other reasons, apparently. He played is first season, then was suspended by Mark Dantonio, but they still held his scholarship until his legal issues were resolved. The point remains the same, however, in that MSU could have cut him loose without a second thought and who could have blamed it for doing so? But Mark Dantonio and staff didn't do that. They remained loyal to him and gave him something to work toward while resolving the criminal matters.
This post was edited by BillOGoods 14 months ago
In the post you quote, I specifically said that talent like Magic, who left after leading MSU to a NC, is the occasional exception to staying all four years.
Actually, the guy who can't let someone else state their opinion w/o getting personal about it, is the idiot.
Yeah Dantonio kept him on so he wouldn't end up living a criminal life. If he just kicked him off, chances are he would have been done with school, and off to live a life nowhere near as promising as a D1 student-athlete. In turn Sims worked on his body and skills for countless hours, and being a better student. Now instead of being in jail, or in a criminal ring of sorts he's looking forward to being a MILLIONAIRE IN THE NFL.
You are easily becoming my least favorite poster.
Dantonio cares about these players futures. Being great people, hard work ethic, becoming rich and successful. If that means leaving one fucking season early I GUARANTEE he doesn't mind. I don't know how you can't wrap this shit aound your head.
Exactly, we see this thug Lewan stay at SCum for his final year, passing up millions and millions, all for, I have to say, the right reasons. And three of our guys can't hit the road out of East Lansing fast enough. Embarrassing.
You don't know the background for the players though. Family , money problems, kids, etc. I don't know at all, but I'm guessing Taylor Lewan's family situation is better than both Sims and Gholston. But you can't grasp that. Sometimes people need money for their families and if the time presents itself now, they take it.
Gholston came up from little, now has his own kid. I'm sure risking injury isn't worth the money he could make now. You are such a pathetic "fan".
This post was edited by PPTPWmsu 14 months ago
They don't need money, they want money...fast money, even if it's a lot less than they can get next year (Bell excluded here, he was smart to go).
There were articles about Gholston sleeping on random couches and in cars his senior year of high school. He didn't have money, and still got the opportunity to play college ball anywhere he wanted. His kid won't be any better off by him going to the NFL this year than next. It just means his baby momma will be living off his money instead of likely getting aid from the state (assuming she's a young, single mother without the means to support herself).
You won't find anyone anywhere that thinks that Gholston or Sims played up to their potential, and the draft will reflect that. It won't help either of them with the controversies that both endured either. They aren't going into the draft as squeeky clean, high energy players...they've had their issues, and both have been called out for not being "all in" at times in practice.
Yet BoG is getting personal about the opinions and decisions of 3 student athletes that he doesn't know or know their personal situations. Contradictory.
Yeah his kid won't benefit from her dad having millions of dollars this year right away .
Woahh sorry rodeo, though it was BoG lmao.
That appears to be exactly what this moran is saying.
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Well, unlike you, apparently, I don't find the idea of wrapping "shit" around my head very productive. You should also point me to that article or video in which Mark Dantonio wishes any of the three departing players anything close to "well" or says anything like he "doesn't mind." In fact, here's what he said about the least offensive, but still offensive, departure: "“As a 20-year-old, Le’Veon faced an extremely difficult decision,” Dantonio said. “While I do believe there was both personal and program value in Le’Veon returning for his senior season, I acknowledge the difficult choice he had to make.” See link, below.
As for Gholston, a little better fairwell, but nothing close to endorsement of the decision:
"“Will is an extremely caring person and had a very tough time personally making this decision. When he made the commitment to first become a Spartan, he never wavered throughout the (recruiting) process. For that, I will be forever grateful and stand beside him throughout his life. We will miss Will as both a player and person as he moves into this next phase of his life. We wish him great success.”
See link below.
I'm very sorry you are disappointed in my posts and will continue to work hard to become your favorite poster as I am sure there are many on this Board who would want to hear the echos from your canyon-esq cranium.
After reports of juniors Dion Sims and Le’Veon Bell foregoing their senior seasons to enter the NFL Draft made headlines the past two days, the duo released statements along with head coach Mark Dantonio Thursday evening.
Unlike Michigan State teammates Le'Veon Bell and Dion Sims, Will Gholston still hadn't given a statement to MSU on his early departure for the NFL as of Saturday morning, but Gholston did speak to 247Sports about his decision. He told the website he informed Mark Dantonio of his decision on Friday.
I think what BOG is trying to say really boils down to a Great Athlete vs. a Great Spartan. Nice to have both when we can, but that sometimes doesn't always work out.
I'd say Bell is a great athlete and going pro is the right thing for him... but it doesn't make him a great Spartan when he shows the more mercenary side of sports... and no, I'm not saying he is a bad Spartan at all - just that he's not in that "great" category. That catagory has more in it involving loyalty to the university.
We can minse the words all we want and heckle our southern rival, but they have the exact same thing with their "michigan man" crap.
This is the correct answer. Gholston in particular made an enormous error in judgment. he could have been a surefire first round pick with a big senior year. Same for Sims.
I wish Bell had stayed, but I don't blame him for leaving...weak RB class and his stock isn't getting any higher. what sucks for him and every other RB is that you have to win the heisman to go in the top 20 picks now. Teams just don't draft RBs before the 2nd round anymore.
Getting personal? What are you talking about?
Amen. Except, I don't think I "tried" to say it, I did say it. But I'm not going to quibble.
Simply suggesting we focus on the points made or not made, w/o the idiot this, asshole that business.
that's great and all, but in Gholston and Sims' cases they could have worked their way into the first round and possibly made that much in ONE year. At worst they would be 2nd rounders. the difference in money from the 2nd to the 4th is huge - as is the % of picks that actually make a roster.
Uhmmmm. Whose the moron? Just a heads up: You should read that post again and, then, delete yours to save some possible embarrassment.
pretty please, with sugar on top, shut the fuck up and STOP CALLING WILL "GHOLDIE!!"
Gholston won't be "having millions of dollars this year right away".
Look at the salary slots, and then tell me where you think he'll get drafted.
Assuming his infant child is well fed, sleeps indoors, and gets some kind of medical attention, the kid won't have a clue how much money Big Will has in his bank account this year. All of those things are provided by the state if a person can't do it themselves.
I re-read it, and stand by what I said. You make an exception for Magic, probably because you know you'd get raked over the coals if you started ripping on him the way you're ripping on Bell/Sims/Gholston.
"I'm not happy they have screwed over our program and left early"
So you have absolutely no faith in the rest of the team to replace their contributions? Nice. I'm sure they appreciate your support. If losing three players, albeit very good ones, is going to screw over the program, then the program was already screwed.
Fact is, you're ripping on three kids who helped lead MSU to its most successful stretch in well over 20 years. I recommend you stop taking their NFL decision as a personal insult and just enjoy the success that they've helped MSU enjoy.
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