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For $250 it seems a bit steep, but definitely the best looking thermostat on the market... I have a Filtrete 3M wifi thermostat and I love the iOS (and android, losers) integration.
Nest Labs on Tuesday announced the next generation of its Learning Thermostat, a new device that is 20% slimmer than its predecessor and now compatible w
Trevor and I have had one since they were released. I love the thing. The app allows you to change the temperature from your phone. So if we've been gone from the house for awhile, I can open the app to tell it to turn on the air to a specific temperature - Same with the heat. You can also run reports to see how much energy is saved by using Nest. I highly recommend.
Seems like the Filtrete 3M thermostat is a better value for $99
I've had the Nest since March, and I agree with everything Mel said above. The auto-away is nice as there are often times where everyone is out of the house for the whole day, but you would never think to turn off the air/heat, so that is just free savings. We did identify a problem with the Nest getting confused when the power company would briefly cut power to our A/C during the summer. The Nest thought the system was gone (it was, there was no power to it), but then when the power was restored the Nest would not recognize the system as back on-line. A simple reset fixed the problem. Hopefully this will be fixed with version 3.0 of the software.
Just looked at the numbers and our electric/gas bills are down a total of $164 year on year during the period that we owned the Nest. Even if the Nest only provided 1/2 of that, the payback is under 2 years.
I've had the nest since January. Although not cheap, it looks and works great. Really well constructed and easy to set up.
I like it but its cheap... the "touch pad" is a pain in the ass, hardly ever recognized you're sitting there pounding on it to lower the temperature a degree. A couple times I've just said "f it" and pulled out my phone and adjusted it remotely from 2 feet away.
Best part of the WIFI thermostat is being out of the house for a weekend and forgetting to adjust it to the "away" settings, one click on the smart phone is all it takes.
Yep, I think it will definitely pay for itself over a couple of years time easily. Maybe sooner.
It's great that you can change it using a smartphone, computer, or tablet, but the "learning" aspect of it really sets it apart as far as I'm concerned.
Nest programs itself in about a week. It creates a personalized schedule based on the temperature changes you’ve made and continually adapts to your changing life.
After you’ve left the house, Nest will sense you've gone and automatically adjusts the temperature to avoid heating or cooling an empty home.
Want to know if you’re saving energy when you change the temp? The Nest Leaf appears when you turn Nest to a temperature that's energy efficient. It guides you in the right direction.
You can make better decisions about your energy use if you know how and why it changes. Nest shows you when your system was on and if the weather, Auto-Away or your adjustments affected your energy use most.
Airwave automatically turns off the AC a few minutes early, but keeps the fan running. The air stays cool while your AC runs up to 30% less.
Nest’s activity sensors have a 150° wide-angle view. That range enables Nest to activate Auto-Away in 90% of homes.
Nest shows you indoor humidity and can manage your whole-home humidifier or dehumidifier.
Nest uses its Wi-Fi connection to keep an eye on current weather conditions and forecasts so it can understand how the outside temperature affects your energy use.
Three temperature sensors track your home’s temperature and how quickly it changes.
They just announced version 3.0 of the software. Since it's already networked, it just updates itself. Not sure if they've pushed the update out yet or not. Some of the new features...
From what I've read, everything about it is very, very nice, and the internet connectivity is sweet.
However, if you have a fairly regular schedule...you could just get a quality Honeywell and program it and get probably very close to the same energy savings. Chances that the Nest would make up in savings for the additional cost of like $200 are slim to none--it's very much a luxury good, but a quality one.
I disagree, we replaced a programmable Honeywell with the Nest, and are saving money already. I would credit the Auto-Away for a lot of that I imagine.
Not entirely true. The Airwave feature of the Nest over other thermostats (Honeywell included) will save money.
If you leave at around the same time every morning and program that into your honeywell, how does Auto-Away improve on that?
Imagine a world where you're not on the same exact schedule every day.
My completely uninformed guess is that the extra savings on Airwave wouldn't cover the difference...but I'm sure there's data about it somewhere.
The more Nests that are sold, the better. Honeywell is basically the Microsoft of the thermostat world, except even more anticompetitive.
If you go out in the evening, or weekends, the Honeywell is going to just stay on the same program. The Nest will switch to Auto-Away within a half hour or so. Same thing applies if you go away for the weekend and don't manually adjust the Honeywell, etc. I think Airwave definitely helps as well.
Nest wants to expand into other home categories. It'll be interesting to see what their next project is after the thermostat.
Love the nest..... never have to touch it now...... Auto Away is sweet, Iphone app is sweet, air-wave is sweet.....
My only beef is the range setting does not have a self-learining feature...... If I could make it better, therew ould be a way for the heat to come on or the air to come on to keep a consistent temp......
A few weeks ago, it was a little warm during the day and it started to cool at bedtime. I left the Nest on AC, but opened my bedroom window.... Well, it got super cold that night and I woke up in the morning freezing. The Nest said it was 62 in the house.... It should be pretty simple for the damn heat to kick on..... Although it is nice to be able to change to heat on my phone..
I can't replace my thermostat (i rent an apartment) but i would like to see some other "smart" technology like this. Like turning off my ceiling fan when I leave for a week and leave it running the entire time. I don't think we've shut it off in about 3 months.
The "smart" part of your problem here is not with technology
I've been hugely interested in home automation but from what I can tell the technology is evolving at too quick of a pace to justify the expense. As more and more wireless solutions become available it will be entirely unnecessary to rewire your home and go through the headache. I know there are light switches you can install and turn on remotely, plugs, etc. so all you have to do is switch those out and everything communicated via a central control unit. But who and what is best? Wifi or Zigbee? Control4 or something else.
The ones that I've seen work really well are the ones where... say you're like my household where my wife wakes up about an hour before I do, you can set it up so at 5 a.m. the lights in the hallway, stairs, and kitchen turn on, the coffee pot begins brewing her coffee, and the TV turns on. Then at 6 when I wake up, the bedroom and bathroom lights turn on. At 6:30, the kids bedroom lights turn on, their bathroom lights turn on, the rest of the first floor "wakes up" and at 7 when we leave, everything shuts off and the thermostat cools. Then at 5:30 I can remotely tell the oven to start warming to 350, the exterior lights of the house turn on when it starts to get dark and the interior lights are on before I walk in the front door.... there are tons of different scenarios you can program into these things for how you live and use your house. All so you can save those precious extra seconds and have that extra time to veg out in front of your iPad arguing with somebody about the passing game on tRCMB.
It would not surprise me to see the Nest folks go in the direction of a "home automation for dummies" type of offering.
Can you have more than one in your home ? Meaning our house has 2 separate thermostats that control totally separate AC's and heaters.
I think the only way to achieve this is to have every appliance or lightswitch linked to the interned and have a wireless signal, ala the nest.......
Imagine a coffeemaker that connects to your wireless, or lightswitches that are digital that connect, your stove being all digital and connecting......
This will be the future.... and the fun guys at Nest will do it I am sure..... Of course, they will build the platform and then license the technology to Whirlpool, GE, or Viking or whomever else want it....
Yes. You just use your original wiring to hook it up.
So each unit can be controlled from a phone and the internets ? I was wondering if you can control both units.
I am wary of the price. I love home automation and laugh at those that dont even have a programmable thermostat. But my $49 programmable thermostat that allows a weekday and weekend setting seems to be enough.
However, as I think about it, both my wife and I work at home and often one or both are gone unpredictably and the auto-away could be a good feature.
I assume you set an away temperature? e.g. if you have it at 78F in the summer for when you are home, is it like 82F when you are away? I would be annoyed to come home to a hot house and have to wait an hour for it too cool and I dont want to use my iphone to adjust the temp every time I come home either...
eh...not sure. If it was $99, yes.
Yes, you can independently control either through a phone or the internets.
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