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Also a Maxwell article from yesterday.
A Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl win against TCU took the sting off of a mostly disappointing season for Michigan State. Picked by many (ahem) to win the Big
Former Michigan State offensive coordinator Dan Roushar undoubtedly absorbed the brunt of the criticism for the unit's struggles in 2012. But startin
LT to defense seems the most logical move of the offseason. Hoping for big things out of Ceasar at TE, but we'll see how he does in the spring game. O line wise I'm just hoping they can stay healthy for a season.
Who on the OL had shoulder surgery?
I really hope we get a real QB competition. It would only benefit us really. It would at least give Maxwell more motivation to improve if nothing else.
Knowing how loyal Dantonio is and the fact that his reasons for having Maxwell #1 had nothing to do with his physical abilities, I'm a little concerned about that position for next year...
All of them! They are making a human wall, kind of like the human centipede, but no ATM.
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"He just needs to create more when things have broken down." (talking about Maxwell)...
This was Maxwell's biggest flaw, and I'm glad Dantonio mentioned it. Maxwell was a robot back there. If the initial play wasn't there, he never created something on his own.
Truth. I've never seen a QB throw away half as many passes. He just panicked. Sure he could have gotten sacked or forced an interception...but the dude threw like 3 pick sixes anyway.
Only 9 picks on the year sounds ok until you realize he threw half his passes out of bounds and we scored a touchdown about once every 6 quarters.
The question is,,,,,,can Maxwell "learn" to create plays on his own ? IMHO, that part of QB play is not learned,,,,,you either have it or you don't. Maxwell showed us last year, over the course of 13 games, that he doesn't have it.
I agree and it seemed like to me that he always would move backward which is a huge problem if you're a quarterback. Cousins didn't run a lot but when he had to, he would. At the very least step up in the pocket to make a strong throw.
Hopefully Maxwell can get better. I haven't completely given up on him yet but last year was pretty awful.
Completely agree. I've said several times on here that football instincts for a quarterback is generally something you either have or you don't. Maxwell clearly doesn't have it.
I'll be rooting for one of the young guys to win the job (with O'Connor being more likely than a true freshman in Terry)
This quote scares me:
"We saw Bennie Fowler rise to the top and play much more consistently"
What team was he watching? I mean he was consistent.....He consistently dropped passes in the endzone.
motivation to improve? Sorry, but he had all season to get better and he regressed. Need someone who can scramble and make quick decisions and not throw the ball at a 100mph every time.
Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.
He got a lot better as the season progressed
With our OL and predictable play calling last year, things broke down every play!
Why say Maxwell is the #1 QB? Can't we just say it's an open competition and be done with it?
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you must not follow MSU football under Dantonio then...Dantonio is loyal to winning with integrity.
Just look at the last 3 months...he replaced a starting QB with the 2nd string QB in a key situation in the game, he fired a long time assistant and replaced him with a young up and coming coach, and, he helped the previous embattled OC gracefully exit and revamped the offensive staff that included hiring a proven position coach.
right now, Maxwell is the #1 qb on the roster and if he stays #1, he will have earned it. Every player comes in with a clean slate and the new offensive staff will ensure that the best players are on the field.
Better from dropping passes in the endzone? I should hope so.
I know what you mean and I'm close to giving up on him as well. But I guess my thinking is, he had no competition all season, Connor Cook was not a factor until the bowl game. Maxwell knew he was the guy all season and didn't have any sort of fire...he was just going through the motions.
If knowing he has competition doesn't motivate him, he is truly a lost cause. But yes, in my opinion...he would have to improve a whole hell of a lot to get the offense going next year, I would like to see some new blood in there. The thing is, Maxwell has shown no leadership ability, and that's not an area that's easy to improve upon, especially since he doesn't have it by now after 4 years. He doesn't have the intangibles Cousins had. Also Maxwell simply doesn't make plays and doesn't give defenses a whole lot to be worried about.
I'm just worried there won't really be a QB competition and Maxwell will be the guy again and again go through the motions. That's the worst thing that could happen.
Cook found a way into the end zone when it mattered. It wasn't pretty, but I think that's what this team needs is someone how can find a way to score.
This. I hope Maxwell is mentally "together" again for spring ball. Really hoped to see a strong showing in the bowl game and instead it was the opposite. I'd like to see him run a few times in spring ball when plays aren't there or the OL breaks down, and generally show signs of coolness under fire.
I'll be rooting for the staff to choose the best QB, not for any specific player, just that one or more of them looks spectacular.
Last year we rode Le'veon's back to the point teams forced MSU to beat them through the air. Our offensive play calling was predictable and execution was poor.
This team enters 2013 without a real offensive identity as QB is unproven, RB's have little experience, TE questions, WR's promising yet unproven an OL which should be stronger but has been injury prone and new OC's.
As mentioned in other posts, our QB will need to create offense this year. I didn't see that potential from Maxwell last year. He locked into his target wasn't good at improvising on the fly. Way to many 3 yard passes on 3rd and long and no redzone swagger. The QB needs to be a team leader who can will the team to victory. I am not sure Maxwell has that fire in the belly or has earned the confidence from the O or D.
The offense needs to pound the rock and pass effectively to keep the defense honest. I am hoping more contact drills during practice helps a leader to distinguish himself. I also hope we get more reps for a back-up QB in the first few games. It was a shame Cook didn't get any snaps during the debacle last year.
Go Green -
From Boise to Ohio State, completely agree with you. From IU on, thought he played pretty well.
Had a good game @ IU and a big play to finally get us over the hump and take the lead late.
Had the game winning TD @ UW
Had a great game against Minnesota including a nice heads up play on the deflection touchdown which kinda propelled us the rest of the way. Also for good measure he did have like 8-99-TD @ CMU. He played well in all of our road games pretty much. Of course, he then went on to get shut out in the bowl game.
Not saying he's a world beater at all. 41-525-4 for a junior isn't awful though, hopefully he can take the next step and be a solid player as a senior. I'd be fine with 55-700-5 or something like that from him
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