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Do not read any further if you have not read all 5 books!!!!
I searched and really didn't see anything on this topic so I thought I would start a thread for people who have read the books and want to talk about how the characters are progressing and any changes.
The one MAJOR change is the writers are showing the Theon & Ramsay development. I am still kind of up in the air on this. The Reek story was my favorite arc of the whole series and I feel that showing this development will really take away from the later development of Reek into Theon. On the other hand, I like seeing truly how sick Ramsay really is. When we meet Reek he is already broken and it is interesting to see how Ramsay breaks him so badly. I am sure that Martin had a strong hand in this part and I trust him that he can still preserve the reek aspect in upcoming seasons.
IDK about anyone else, but as I watched Dany march with 8K+ unsullied at the end of last night's episode, I got kind of depressed thinking about how powerful that scene was portrayed on screen and where we know her to be at the end of book 5. People who have never read the book probably think she will be well on her way to Westeros by the end of the season.
I haven’t read a SOS in a while, but doesn't Sam the Slayer make an appearance before he saves Gilly?
Snape kills Dumbledore.
Crap wrong series.
Gandalf comes back in the 2nd one.
Vader is Luke's father.
I'll nerd it up:
1 - Sam the Slayer happened before the mutiny at Craster's. I'm assuming they're just moving it to later in the season for some narrative/story-telling reason. Can't imagine they'll not come back to it.
2 - The Dany stuff will be VERY frustrating for viewers.
I'm wondering if the show has really dropped the Kingsguard oaths/vows from the show. Is Loras no longer in the Kingsguard in the show, or is he and they just are allowed to marry? Also, Tywin still believes Jaime to be his heir at this point. Is that because the Kingsguard can still inherit in the TV show, or is it Tywin's belief that the Kingsguard foolishness will be dropped by Jaime?
I like what they're doing with Ramsay/Theon. It's different from the books, sure, but at least it's all on-screen instead of the flashback. I think they're doing a good job building up Ramsay to be a nice guy, and as we saw yesterday he definitely has the potential to be really messed up.
The Dany storyline is gonna be a clusterfuck anywhere. With Episode 10 titled "Mhysa" that probably implies that they are going to stretch out the Yunkai storyline for the rest of the season.
Re: Sam - I think so...but they'll probably make it happen on their way back to the Wall.
Loras was never appointed to the Kingsguard in the show. This lets them set him up with Sansa instead of Willas, who is never introduced. This could also lead to Tywin or Joffrey appointing him to the Kingsguard to thwart those plans, and then marry Sansa off to Tyrion.
Jaime is still Kingsguard but as Tyrion says in S3E01, Jaime cannot inherit. However, Tywin is probably unconcerned because Joffrey could definitely make an exception (such as when he released Barristan from the Kingsguard). This happens in the books too I think.
They took half the season to do Astapor, I think taking half the season to handle Yunkai is fair.
I wonder if they will speed up her Mereen storyline, but not sure how that can work time-wise with what happens in the same time-frame in Westeros.
Yep, I don't think they wanted add anymore characters. We all know Loras isn't gonna marry her.
I hate Theon, and they are already trying to make viewers feel sorry for him.
Jaime is the one that I feel sorry for. He may have pushed Bran, but he was under that Bitches spell. But it really doesn't matter who Tywin thinks is heir. Soon it will the Lions turn to fall.
When Joffrey bites it I expect to hear people rejoice.
I really would like to see one major twist from the books. Anything to surprise.
The TV shows seems to love Margaery Tyrell. I see her not getting any of her scenes cut at all.
Yeah, Ramsey is far less rapey so far compared to the books, in the books he's basically an insane sociopath
Plenty yet to come. They JUST revealed the double cross.
What episode do you think they're going to kill Joffrey off? Episode 5 is going to be heavy with Jon and Ygritte. 6 is going to be the climb up the wall. Episode 7 "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" looks appropriate with the attack on the wall starting as well. I doubt they'll kill Joffrey off in the same episode as the Red Wedding, if they do that'll be the best episode of the series, and episode 9 is going to be the Red Wedding. The 9th Episode has traditionally been the the biggest of the Season (Ned Stark, Blackwater) plus the episode title is a giveaway.
GOT season three of WHAT?
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Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Early season 4.
This. Or i can see joff hitting the floor as the last scene/cliffhanger of 3.
really? I know it doesn't follow the books exactly but doesn't that happen before the red wedding? I'd figure season four will deal with the Eyrie and then end with Tyrion killing Tywin. Although as I type this it'd make sense for it to happen at the beginning, then have Tyrion be imprisoned for much of season 4.
I'm just really tired of watching Joffrey, they did a fantastic job of making him despicable.
Happens after the red wedding which is after the tyrion-sansa wedding.
Episode 8 "Second Sons" looks like a good candidate for Joffery to go down (leaving his brother as king). I expect there will also be a lot of the Tywin, Jaime, Tyrion conflict setting up the eventual crossbow bolt to the guts.
"If you want to be the Man, then you have got to BE the Man." -- CA Sparty's Dad
Guys, Joffrey doesn't die until after the RW. Remember, he taunts Sansa saying he'll serve her Robb's head on a platter.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I was thinking it would be at least Season 4 before they kill off Joffrey, was the main reason they are splitting book 3 into 2 separate seasons. Between the Red Wedding and Joffrey being killed, those are 2 major story lines you could build around. I guess we'll see. I was surprised by the Ramsey and Theon already in the series since the books really don't go into them until the whole Reek character pops up in one of the later books.
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Yet. Remember all of Theon's torture is shown through hints and flashbacks (Cat receiving the skin at the Red Wedding, etc.). The show is going to take him through all the stages of being turned into Reek. Not going to lie, it's going to be hard to watch at times.
The thing is in the book Storm of Swords, the Red Wedding and Joffrey's death are not that far apart. I think they could kill of Joffrey in season 10 this year and still do half of a season next year introducing the Red Viper, Sansa's escape, Tyrion's trial, Red Viper vs Mountain and Tyrion's escape. There is a shitload that happens in Storm after Joffrey's death.
Very true, it was 8 months ago i read that book and i forget how much really happened. That book was crazy from start to finish. I am really going to need book 6 to come out soon. I'm not an avid book reader but these books i couldn't stop reading.
That's so pointless though. RW will be episode 9, and episode 10 will be focused on the liberation of the Yunkai'i. There's absolutely no reason to have the entire buildup to the Purple Wedding, the wedding itself, and then have Joffrey die, only for nothing to be explained for another year.
I expect Joff dies in episode 3 or so of season 4, which gives them 7 episodes to draw out the Tyrion trial, Oberyn/Gregor fight, and then Tyrion's escape.
God damn I am not ready for Robb stark to die. That family cant catch a break.
I like Richard Madden. I will be sad to see him die.
In the books, I didn't really care. Robb never particularly grew on me, and I was glad to see an end to Catelyn's whiny ass chapters. The Arya cliffhanger though.....FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU.
Don't mind spoilers, sounds like Dany ends up dead or worse, that sucks, seems like it's her destiny to take it all over at this point. She's one of the only righteous characters on the show and bad ass too.
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