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They are the in state competition.
IU cares about Butler and Purdue.
Duke cares about Carolina
It's not a argument... It's a fact...
I'm not discrediting what they did last year as they had a good run, so hats off to them...
But Last year is over, and now its time to look at the upcoming season and on that note, Burke, who was the POTY is gone, so the argument isn't if they didn't have him last year.. It's that they won't have him this year... From scUM's recent BBall history, let's just say 20 years, they haven't done anything besides last year, so it's pretty hard to say they are worthy of all of this hype...
What I'm trying to say is this.. The last time they lost their starting point guard, they subsequently were bounced in the 1st round by Ohio.. making the championship game is awesome, but just as kentucky showed us after losing the POTY, that another run is not a guarantee..
Reminds me a bit of the 2001-2002 season.
If I remember correctly, MSU was pre-season top 10 despite losing Bell, Hutson, Randolph, Richardson. Yet we had Marcus and a great recruiting class coming in....
It was a remarkable acheivment to make the tourney that year. UM's situation might not be quite that desperate but they aren't coming off 3 final fours with Izzo either.
Fuck this thread, please die.
Yup - good comparison. Very similar talent between the 2011-12 team and the 2013-14 team.
True, 2011-12 was more talented.
So we'll just beat them in the Bres by 25 instead of 40...and by less than 10 instead of 10 + in Crisler. I can live with that.
"I love March!" - Tom Izzo
Remember the joy you took last year when we went 7-6 in football, and all the UM fans were high and mighty about how our two good years were a fluke and water found its level? Stay tuned. It's gonna look real familiar soon.
Did they get some sort of bump? Most of the places I saw had them at the bottom half of the first round. I see what GR3 would stay but I think McGary might have lost his opportunity to be picked that high unless he somehow manages to do better when defenses actually pay attention to him vs focusing on the guards.
GR3 was 14, last i saw. Mcgary was end of the first round at best.
Kentucky's fall wasn't because they lost solely Anthony Davis. Kentucky not only lost the player of the year who was the #1 pick in the draft, they lost the #2 overall pick in the draft, the #18 pick in the draft, and the #29 pick in the draft...and for good measure they lost a couple guys who were 2nd round picks too. If you don't see a difference there, I'm not sure what's going on up there in your head.
I'm not saying Michigan's going to make another run to the Final Four, but to predict a Kentucky like fall in one year based on the NPOY leaving is ridiculous. Any team would struggle to replace the NPOY, and Kentucky not only had to replace him, but 5 other NBA Draft picks.
But I suppose if you just don't think that the other guys are any good, your point would be fair.
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how on earth can you not see the difference between a 22 year old College senior - of which there are zillions all over the world, and a 21 year old College Sophomore, of which there are very few - and all of whom lost time or were held back at some point and couldn't get it going with their peers,
McGary STARTED COLLEGE WHEN HE WAS 20!!! There is absolutely no way to downplay how hilarious that is
No, hell no.
Maybe in nevereverland
1. I did not take that much joy in your football season. I was happy Hoke finally ended Dantonio's streak, but not overjoyed. I was disappointed in UM's actually. Don't make assumptions.
2. I'm sure it is your hope that UM regresses quite a bit. Beilein has produced a banner two seasons in a row. Do I think he will make it 3? No, but it is possible if things go the right way for UM. I am just relieved that MM and GR3 coming back should prevent UM from hitting a major bump in the road this year.
Also, Beilein has said himself how much the championship game run will improve recruiting. Should be interesting going forward with he and Izzo going after the same guys-Looney and Booker in 2014, Kennard in 2015, and the big prize Josh Jackson in 2016.
Chad Ford was the only mock I saw, admittedly. I'm not a big NBA guy.
You're right, he should not have used Kentucky has a comparison. Just the pure futility of UMs' program is enough. Welcome back to the NIT and the bottom half of the big ten.
Payne turned 20 midway through his freshman year. I guess that's a huge difference from McGary to you. So be it.
Why the circle jerk about McFairy on an MSU board? Just curious. You seem desperate to defend the old slob.
So you have never played basketball have you?
columnists across the country try to do mock drafts every year and they're all over the place. One mock draft doesn't mean people are a "top 15 pick". I've seen drafts where Harris and Payne are first rounders, and some where they go undrafted. Same story with GR3 and McGary. That's why they're coming back.
This thread is over twice as long as the thread discussing Gary Harris coming back (and the end of that thread is about UM as well). Solid priorities, Spartans!
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