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UConn is an upgrade over Maryland.....except for Field Hockey. I don't know how the ACC will survive without Terp field hockey.
"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
The Big Ten is becoming the roommate that bangs a bunch of average to ugly chicks that brags to friend with a hot girlfriend.
If the B1G expands again, the preferences would be as follows (in order):
1. University of Virgina
2. University of North Carolina
3. Georgia Tech
4. Syracuse University (i.e., if you can't expand south from Md, go northeast)
What about University of Cincinnati? Or Louisville?
Neither fit the B1G profile.
1) Terrible academics. Easily would be the 2 worst schools in the B1G.
2) They offer nothing in the way of market expansion. We already have Ohio with OSU and Kentucky is not a big market.
3) Subpar athletics do nothing to enhance the B1G brand.
We would literally lose money as a conference letting in either of them.
This post was edited by AASpartan 20 months ago
If GT delivers the ATL market...
Draymond Green, Magic Johnson, and Oscar Robertson are the only players to have two triple-doubles in the NCAA Tournament.
While I agree on pretty much every point ghost I'll play devils advocate here. I'm only concerned with MSU first, B1G second. We've spent tons of time recruiting Georgia and have reaped some rewards recently. Having GT should give us an even better foothold in that state, which incidentally ranks either third or fourth in recruit production. May be bullshit for the league but as I mentioned previously, could help is.
It would take a major culture shift at Texas and ND to get them to join the B1G. ND's hand could be forced if the ACC breaks up, but they could just go to the Big 12 just to spurn the B1G. Texas seems to be pretty comfortable right now, and I don't see any current Big 12 members trying to leave.
Well yes, but gotta remember, anything that helps B1G helps MSU. getting Ga Tech in would for sure our national perception more than it has now. And MSU plays in the B1G and will hurt our national perception even more. I agree that getting a foothold in GA is important, but Ga Tech sucks. Most people in GA don't even watch Ga Tech. hell I'll be surprised if 5% of the total population cheers for them. And even if they do join, do you really think we can pry away a GA kid if he has offers from UGA let alone other SEC offers? Nick Tompkins is awesome but that's 1 recruit in our class of 20 or so last year
I would love to grab UNC and Ga Tech. I could go watch MSU play in Chicago, NYC and ATL in one year. So much nicer than having my choices be Iowa, Nebraska, Happy Valley, etc. Atlanta market would be huge for MSU with the inroads they've made in Georgia. I only hope that Ga Tech is in our division if they join.
To me easily:
2) Ga Tech
3) No one
Syracuse and UVA offer little to nothing to the B1G.
NYC? You mean like for a November hoops game in Madison Square Garden or the new Barclays Center?
No I mean a Rutgers game in November. I'll stay in NYC and take the NEC train to Rutgers. It's like 35 minutes.
I also like an out of the box idea that might work for the 9 game schedule that a guy at work said today. Play 4 at home, 4 on the road and rotate a neutral site non-rivalry game against the other division (i.e. Rutgers v. Michigan State at MetLife stadium or Michigan State v. Maryland at RFK). Every team could have a "closer to home" neutral site.
Michigan State - Detroit
Michigan - Detroit
Northwestern/Illinois - Chicago
Purdue/Indiana - Indianapolis
Ohio State - Cleveland/Cincy
Penn State - Philly/Pittsburgh
Rutgers - NYC
Maryland - DC
Iowa/Nebraska - KC (this is the worst one, fucking Iowa and Nebraska literally have no place close to them that i'd be interested in EVER visiting)
Minnesota - bleh (the pro stadium is worse than the college one lol)
Wisconsin - Green Bay
Except talent and money. NY and VA each produce more NFL talent than NC. Both also have bigger populations. More people equals more money.
Are you high? Not unless you want to set Spartan Football back 50 years.
Don't post poop!
We already have NY market with Rutgers. Syracuse only gives us the poor areas of NY state. Buffalo, Niagra and Rochester...ever been there? fuck those places.
We already have the heavily populated areas of Va in suburban DC with Maryland. We don't need the rest of it.
Ga Tech gives us Atlanta which is BY FAR the biggest and most talented area that we can logically expand into. UNC is the biggest name and offers probably the 2nd biggest market we can get into.
Delany hit a grand slammer with the NY tv market which holds 7.4 million eyeballs. Atlanta holds 2.3 million viewers.
too bad only like 4 people watch college athletics.
Absolutely. He just added the #1 and #8 tv markets in the country.
Rank Local Market TV Homes % of US
1 New York 7,384,340 6.47% - Rutgers
2 Los Angeles 5,613,460 4.92% - out of our region
3 Chicago 3,484,800 3.05% - Illinois/Northwestern/Rest of B1G
4 Philadelphia 2,949,310 2.58% - Penn State
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,588,020 2.27% - out of our region
6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose 2,502,030 2.19% - out of our region
7 Boston (Manchester) 2,366,690 2.07% - no school that fits
8 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) 2,359,160 2.07% - Maryland
9 Atlanta 2,326,840 2.04% - Georgia Tech (hope)
10 Houston 2,215,650 1.94% - out of our region
11 Detroit 1,845,920 1.62 - Michigan/Michigan State
12 Seattle-Tacoma 1,818,900 1.59% - out of our region
13 Phoenix (Prescott) 1,812,040 1.59% - out of our region
14 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) 1,806,560 1.58% - out of our region
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 1,728,050 1.51% - Minnesota
16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,621,130 1.42% - out of our region
17 Denver 1,566,460 1.37% - out of our region
18 Cleveland-Akron (Canton) 1,485,140 1.30% - Ohio State
19 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn 1,453,170 1.27% - out of our region
20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 1,387,710 1.22% - out of our region
21 St. Louis 1,243,490 1.09% - Mizzou is unavailable now
22 Portland, OR 1,182,180 1.04% - out of our region
23 Pittsburgh 1,165,740 1.02% - Penn State
24 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) 1,150,350 1.01% - UNC? (hope)
25 Charlotte 1,136,420 1.00% - UNC? (hope)
26 Indianapolis 1,089,700 0.95% - Indiana/Purdue
27 Baltimore 1,085,070 0.95% - Maryland
28 San Diego 1,075,120 0.94% - out of our region
29 Nashville 1,014,910 0.89% - Tennessee is not ever going to join the B1G.
30 Hartford & New Haven 996,550 0.87% - Not going to go after UCONN
With the addition of Rutgers and Maryland the B1G now has 10 of the top 30 TV markets in the country. They just added 10.7 million viewers to the footprint. If the B1G could somehow add GT and UNC they would add another 3 of the top 30 markets and another 4.6 million viewers to the footprint. No other schools could add over 2 million viewers unless we went way out of our region or took a team way different from the rest (BC). Obviously I think GT/ND would be the best but I don't buy ND ever in the B1G (maybe in the Big 12 if the ACC collapses).
18% are college football fans. 18% of 7 million is the biggest tv market for college football in the country. How many actually watch is totally irrelevant though. You don't understand the economics of tv contracts.
We may have a portion of the NYC market for ad money, but not for BTN money (which is the big payday). As I explained before, BTN has negotiated deals with each major cable and satellite company. They are based on a state by state basis. For any cable company outside the big ten footprint, if a subscriber has BTN, they are only charged 10 cents per month. States inside the footprint of the big ten, that rate climbs to $1.10 per month AND BTN gets moved to basic cable in that state
Rutgers is in NJ so it doesn't add NY to the footprint. Adding Syracuse puts NY and its 7.2 million households into the footprint. If you figure 90% of households have cable or satellite, that's 6.5 million subscribers. That equates to $85.4M a year to BTN.
Remember, its not JUST about markets. It's about states.
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